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Well, Dean Alfano was offered a postion he could not refuse. He is such a smart and nice guy. The next dean has some real big shoes to fill. Atleast Dean Alfano will still be working for NYU.

Here is a letter from the President of NYU and it talks about how Dean Alfano turned this school from a crap hole to a world class institution.

I think everything he has done he is remarkable, but I bolded probably the 3 biggies pre-dents might be looking for

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The past eight-year period has been the most exciting and productive time in
the history of NYUCD/CN, and we expect the next chapter will continue this
extraordinary trajectory.

As Dean, Mike Alfano has served the NYUDC/CN and the University with such
distinction that we can only begin to present some of the highlights here. And
while many of us thought Mike would be Dean of the College for many more years,
he will now apply his remarkable talents to the University as Executive Vice
President, and all of NYU will benefit from his high standards and commitment
to the common enterprise. We are thrilled Mike is joining the leadership group
at the University, and we are committed to achieving new heights in the future
at the Dental College.

Mike prides himself on the team he has built at the Dental College - faculty,
students and administrators - yet all of us recognize that Mike himself
deserves a great deal of the credit for the remarkable progress on all
dimensions of the Dental College's mission: teaching, research, clinical care,
and service. Mike aims high, and then he regularly exceeds even those high
targets.

Before sharing several aspects of the transition period going forward, it is
appropriate to pause for just a brief time to reflect how far the College has
come under Mike's leadership.

One of the most impressive features of the College of Dentistry is the spirit
and sense of community that has been created under Mike's leadership. Not only
does this community spirit create a place where we all want to be, it makes
possible achievements that cannot be accomplished without the real esprit de
corps that has flourished. A key part of this community spirit is a
significant focus on ethics, integrity, and humanism, qualities that are
pivotal in a rapidly changing world.

Mike has recruited outstanding full and part-time faculty to the Dental
College; both the quality and the size of the faculty has reached new levels
and this contributes to the outstanding record in research. The College of
Dentistry's research ranking has improved from 41st in 2000 to 6th in 2005 and
we are likely to be in the top five in 2006. We are already number one in
terms of research at dental schools based at private universities.

The administrative dimension of the NYUCD/CN has excelled because of the
contributions of both long-term managers and significant new personnel. Both
faculty and staff have benefited from the novel Faculty Staff Development
Commission that fosters the continuing learning that is essential in our
challenging environment.

Many academic improvements have occurred over the past eight years. Indeed,
the recent independent accreditations of Dentistry and Nursing were virtually
flawless. In addition, student quality has increased dramatically, and the
acceptance rate has gone from 40 percent to 18 percent over the past eight
years in the dental program while the percentage of the class from
underrepresented groups has increased. There has been a marked improvement in
the clinical board scores of our students, with a consistent pass rate in
excess of 95 percent during the senior year of both programs.


On the program front, the changes have been equally dramatic. Most recently
the bold and innovative combination of the College of Nursing with the College
of Dentistry is a significant example of his bold approach to higher education
and health care. Despite the many skeptics, Mike stood firm in his belief that
many gains would accrue from the novel combination; the early results are
positive, with other universities beginning not only to take notice, but to
replicate key aspects of our merger. Also, Mike took the lead in eliminating
the dual DDS programs, successfully combining them into an integrated program.

There have been many successful academic initiatives, many in public health,
and we can only mention a few. Our program in oral cancer has raised the
visibility of this disease nationally; the program has received five national
awards in the past five years. The NYU Dental College is the leader in the
profession on the issue of catastrophe preparedness and has played a leading
role in the reform of dental education. Mike has reached out to numerous
organizations for collaborations including Colgate, the Levin Group, and Nobel
Biocare. The global Dental College programs have grown substantially, and our
programs now operate in Tanzania, Dominican Republic, Nigeria, Brazil,
Honduras, Jamaica, South Africa, and Nicaragua. The successful expansion of
continuing education has made NYU a leader in dental CPE both nationally and
internationally.

During Mike's tenure, the College of Dentistry has established a sound
financial foundation, and its financial performance has benefited from dramatic
enhancements in clinic operations and a much expanded revenue base. Mike's
passion for the Dental College's programs has resulted in record-setting years
in philanthropy; fundraising in 2005 and 2006 each exceeded $9 million, and the
annual fund has increased eight times in eight years. Indeed, the
transformation of the physical plant has been directly linked to these revenue
enhancements.

Not surprisingly, the reputation of the Dental College has soared over these
past eight years. One way the word has spread about the NYU Dental College is
through the award winning publication, NEXUS, which communicates what we do in
a context of a global dental professional community. Our commitment to serving
clients with great need through our Dental Van has also contributed to our well-
deserved reputation for service.

In each of these areas, we will continue to build and improve. Mike has led an
incredible period in the Dental College's advancement and set the stage for a
bright future.

As Mike announced yesterday, he will be leaving the NYUCD/CN deanship effective
on July 1, 2006, and this will lead to changes in the leadership of the College
until we find a new dean.

We are extremely pleased to announce that Professor Richard Vogel has agreed to
serve as Interim Dean until a successor to Mike can be found. Rich, a noted
clinical researcher and a Diplomate of both the American Board of
Periodontology and the American Board of Oral Medicine, joined the faculty of
the College of Dentistry in January of 2000 as Professor in the Departments of
Periodontics and Oral Medicine and as Executive Associate Dean for Academic
Programs.

As Executive Associate Dean for Academic Programs, Rich has partnered with Mike
on many of the academic initiatives noted above. For example, as the chief
academic and clinical officer of the College, among other accomplishments, Rich
has played a lead role in increasing the size and breadth of the faculty,
developing and instituting competency/proficiency based curricula, and revising
clinical care programs to respond to the needs of the College's diverse patient
population.

As the chief architect of the College's two-year self-study, the results of
which lead to a myriad of positive changes in the College, Rich was the
individual most responsible for the College's most recent "near-perfect"
accreditation site visit report, which included no recommendations and more
than two dozen commendations. We are fortunate to have a leader of Rich's
ability and stature to lead us until a new dean is named.

We will be naming a College of Dentistry Dean Search Committee in the coming
weeks. The majority of the committee will be made up of faculty from the
College, and, among others, it will also include students, an administrator
from the College, and a dean from outside of the College. We would be pleased
if as a member of the Dental College community, you would be willing to
nominate a colleague to serve on the Dean Search Committee. You may respond to
the email address from which this email was sent and please include a brief
rationale for the name or names that you present.

At New York University, change is part of our being. In this case, the myriad
talents of Mike Alfano will now benefit all of NYU and we are committed to
continuing the outstanding upward trajectory that Mike has led at the Dental
College.
 
This is very impressive to say the least.
 
3rdMolarRoller said:
acceptance rate has gone from 40 percent to 18 percent over the past eight
So has every other school. That's due to the rise in applications nation wide, not because of something great the dean has done.
 
This speaks volumes about the quality of the faculty and admin. at NYU. Well done.

Oh and Dutchboy, glad to see you're part of the NYU bashing club. Real class...
 
Oh and Dutchboy, glad to see you're part of the NYU bashing club. Real class...


i don't think he was bashing NYU, just stating a fact.......a fact that many schools spin to make their program look better, even though it is a trend at almost all dental schools in the US.
 
I agree with you guys that the acceptance rate isn't a big deal, but you can't downplay the significance of the other things the Dean has done.


thewatchtower said:
i don't think he was bashing NYU, just stating a fact.......a fact that many schools spin to make their program look better, even though it is a trend at almost all dental schools in the US.
 
Galen1 said:
I agree with you guys that the acceptance rate isn't a big deal, but you can't downplay the significance of the other things the Dean has done.

I can: He did an okay job.👍:laugh:
 
My Class, 2007, was really the last class to experience some of the old unfortunate stuff and truthfully it wasn't that bad.

2008 has it good, 2009 has it even better, 2010, you guys are going to get one hell of a clinical education. I was talking to Dr. Wolf (our new director from Stony Brook) and your requirements in the clinic will put ours to shame.

I just hope the new dean does not somehow screw things up like the dean before Alfano. Man did that guy Fuc* things up.
 
Man i have to admit i cringe when reading dental and nursing students in the same class.
 
3rdMolarRoller said:
My Class, 2007, was really the last class to experience some of the old unfortunate stuff and truthfully it wasn't that bad.

2008 has it good, 2009 has it even better, 2010, you guys are going to get one hell of a clinical education. I was talking to Dr. Wolf (our new director from Stony Brook) and your requirements in the clinic will put ours to shame.

I just hope the new dean does not somehow screw things up like the dean before Alfano. Man did that guy Fuc* things up.


How exactly did this guy f'ck up the college so bad? Are the directing/managing differences in Dean Alfano and his predecessor that significant? During my tour, I heard many great things about Dean Alfano. Unfortunately, I believe he was out in Jamaica for some service tour, so I was not able to meet him, though I wish I would have.
 
S Files said:
Man i have to admit i cringe when reading dental and nursing students in the same class.

no, they're in the same school. Not in the same classes.
 
xxJuiceDxx said:
How exactly did this guy f'ck up the college so bad? Are the directing/managing differences in Dean Alfano and his predecessor that significant? QUOTE]

short answer is yes.

Main thing is he could not manage money and keep faculty happy which meant if WE did have good faculty they left.

Alfano found money and got key faculty on board which then attracted more key faculty. You'll see when you get here how many HUGE name dental researchers are here
 
3rdMolarRoller said:
xxJuiceDxx said:
How exactly did this guy f'ck up the college so bad? Are the directing/managing differences in Dean Alfano and his predecessor that significant? QUOTE]

short answer is yes.

Main thing is he could not manage money and keep faculty happy which meant if WE did have good faculty they left.

Alfano found money and got key faculty on board which then attracted more key faculty. You'll see when you get here how many HUGE name dental researchers are here

Unless you're going into research, I dont understand why having "HUGE name dental researchers" makes the school any better for the students....frankly I dont give a $hit what my profs do other than teach me what I need to get out of here.

Please enlighten me, because I hear the same thing from Ivy League students and Im always confused on why students would care if their profs are, for instance inventing new products/materials or analzying the bacterial content of an apical abscess. All the power to them, but it doesnt personally benefit me at all.
 
Galen1 said:
but you can't downplay the significance of the other things the Dean has done.
I just stated a fact. I didn't downplay anything, in fact I found the rest of the post quite impressive.
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
3rdMolarRoller said:
Unless you're going into research, I dont understand why having "HUGE name dental researchers" makes the school any better for the students....frankly I dont give a $hit what my profs do other than teach me what I need to get out of here.

Please enlighten me, because I hear the same thing from Ivy League students and Im always confused on why students would care if their profs are, for instance inventing new products/materials or analzying the bacterial content of an apical abscess. All the power to them, but it doesnt personally benefit me at all.

Ummm... anything that happens in the field of dentistry directly effects us.
If, for example, they researched and came up with robots that can conduct root canal, extraction, etc on patients, we will be one of the most hopeless and unemployed creatures on this planet.
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
3rdMolarRoller said:
Unless you're going into research, I dont understand why having "HUGE name dental researchers" makes the school any better for the students....frankly I dont give a $hit what my profs do other than teach me what I need to get out of here.

Please enlighten me, because I hear the same thing from Ivy League students and Im always confused on why students would care if their profs are, for instance inventing new products/materials or analzying the bacterial content of an apical abscess. All the power to them, but it doesnt personally benefit me at all.

It HAS A HUGE impact on you. because these people bring in TONS of research money, which helps keep tution down. One of Alfano's plans was to keep tution increase's at a minimum and the only way for a private school to do this is through research dollars.

Last year tutition only went up ~3%. Most dental/medical schools are increasing at 8%+

Oh yeah, they also advertise their research on flat screens all over the school looking for patients for certain studies: Such as a new type of implant, a new procedure all together, testing a new crown material, etc.

Well if your patient qualifies, you have the opportunity to assist. Right now implant and crown cost $550 here. I have assisted in placements and restored 4 already just for that project. I've tested new bleaching products and assisted in a new type of 3rd molar extraction/healing procedure. Its endless.

So a research school presents many many opportunites to people like me and other students here. I really like how they get the avg. student invloved if they want.
 
3rdMolarRoller said:
My Class, 2007, was really the last class to experience some of the old unfortunate stuff and truthfully it wasn't that bad.

2008 has it good, 2009 has it even better, 2010, you guys are going to get one hell of a clinical education. I was talking to Dr. Wolf (our new director from Stony Brook) and your requirements in the clinic will put ours to shame.

I just hope the new dean does not somehow screw things up like the dean before Alfano. Man did that guy Fuc* things up.

Just curiosity, what do you mean by our requirements will put yours to shame. As in volume? or quality? or just ovrall?
 
3rdMolarRoller said:
Dr.BadVibes said:
It HAS A HUGE impact on you. because these people bring in TONS of research money, which helps keep tution down. One of Alfano's plans was to keep tution increase's at a minimum and the only way for a private school to do this is through research dollars.

Last year tutition only went up ~3%. Most dental/medical schools are increasing at 8%+

Oh yeah, they also advertise their research on flat screens all over the school looking for patients for certain studies: Such as a new type of implant, a new procedure all together, testing a new crown material, etc.

Well if your patient qualifies, you have the opportunity to assist. Right now implant and crown cost $550 here. I have assisted in placements and restored 4 already just for that project. I've tested new bleaching products and assisted in a new type of 3rd molar extraction/healing procedure. Its endless.

So a research school presents many many opportunites to people like me and other students here. I really like how they get the avg. student invloved if they want.

There you go using that word HUGE again......Im still not convinced....pickup any dental magazine and you'll see a flurry of new products coming out every month that are so called "revolutionary" dental materials/techniques......why would I care if one of my profs was responsible for it.....it only benefits him/her through profit/recognition......but does absolutely nothing for my career.

About the tuition, yes I can see how that can have a slight impact, but NYU is already a million dollars a year....going to NYU to have this so called "HUGE" impact for all that money??? Nah...not worth it for me.

You'll soon realize that all this "HUGE" research impact on you will become completely useless and a waste of time, but I guess right now you're still ******ed and you'll only learn that with time. Good luck testing all these new dental things though.....when the ADA approves it and it becomes a bit more mainstream, then I'll consider looking at it if it benefits my practice. Otherwise, its just yet another dental product out of the million that come out every month......

but hey...you were one of the first ones to use it....so I guess that makes you super cool.
 
By the way....you give Alfano so much praise like he's some sorta God. Are you just some NYU nerd who has a thing for him???? or perhaps you are Alfano himself. That would be quite sad.
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
By the way....you give Alfano so much praise like he's some sorta God. Are you just some NYU nerd who has a thing for him???? or perhaps you are Alfano himself. That would be quite sad.

Don't be pissed my school is better than yours 😀

You are always hating on people man, just leave.
 
3rdMolarRoller said:
Don't be pissed my school is better than yours 😀

You are always hating on people man, just leave.

Alright, I'll take back the "******" comment.....but I would appreciate if you address the points that I had made, instead of doing the ole cop out...
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
Unless you're going into research, I dont understand why having "HUGE name dental researchers" makes the school any better for the students....frankly I dont give a $hit what my profs do other than teach me what I need to get out of here.

Please enlighten me, because I hear the same thing from Ivy League students and Im always confused on why students would care if their profs are, for instance inventing new products/materials or analzying the bacterial content of an apical abscess. All the power to them, but it doesnt personally benefit me at all.

I don't know if big name dental researchers make the dental school better, but the field of research certainly has a "HUGE" impact on what you are being taught to "get out of here." And it does personally benefit you - dentistry is a science, not a technical trade learned at the vo-tech high school.

Implant dentisty is only so popular and a realistic option now because the basic science & clinical researchers sweat out in the lab the optimal conditions to get that hunk of titanium to osseointegrate and not be rejected by the body. Another example is rotary endo, also hugely popular now, but the techniques & protocol of how to properly use rotary endo is determined by research. Even at the public health level - why do I see scores of young adult patients come in caries free, despite not having the best brushing & flossing techniques? Because of fluoride research to determine the optimum level of fluoride in the water to provide an anti-caries effect.

Credible research is also how we get those people claiming "amalgam gives you Alzheimer's" off our backs. You can't just tell them to shove it & use common sense - to offer an educated dentist's opinion means you have to back it up with the literature aka research.

There is more to dentistry than picking up the highspeed and drilling some teeth to make money. It's up to you to decide what kind of practitioner you want to be - one that moves ahead with the times by keeping up with the research, or one who is still doing 2006 dentistry in the year 2026.
 
griffin04 said:
I don't know if big name dental researchers make the dental school better, but the field of research certainly has a "HUGE" impact on what you are being taught to "get out of here." And it does personally benefit you - dentistry is a science, not a technical trade learned at the vo-tech high school.

Implant dentisty is only so popular and a realistic option now because the basic science & clinical researchers sweat out in the lab the optimal conditions to get that hunk of titanium to osseointegrate and not be rejected by the body. Another example is rotary endo, also hugely popular now, but the techniques & protocol of how to properly use rotary endo is determined by research. Even at the public health level - why do I see scores of young adult patients come in caries free, despite not having the best brushing & flossing techniques? Because of fluoride research to determine the optimum level of fluoride in the water to provide an anti-caries effect.

Credible research is also how we get those people claiming "amalgam gives you Alzheimer's" off our backs. You can't just tell them to shove it & use common sense - to offer an educated dentist's opinion means you have to back it up with the literature aka research.

There is more to dentistry than picking up the highspeed and drilling some teeth to make money. It's up to you to decide what kind of practitioner you want to be - one that moves ahead with the times by keeping up with the research, or one who is still doing 2006 dentistry in the year 2026.

Griff.....you've completely misunderstood my point.....Im not saying that dental research is bad...of course not. Im the biggest proponent of any type of scientific research cause it only betters and advances our society.....so I have the utmost respect for anyone that does research....especially dental research (since it is my career).

However, the point I was making was that going to a school where most of the profs focus on research does nothing for my dental education at the moment.....

There are tons and tons of dentists out there who are trying to come up with new materials and techniques.....but how many of them actually get accredited and how many actually become mainstream???? Only a very few.

Of course during my career Ill be reading up on journals to keep up with the growing field.....but during these 4 years, just teach me the basics, get me out of here and let me worry about establishing myself first.....worrying about my prof's research that will most likely either not go anywhere or personally benefit him financially matters nothing to me. If what they are doing is very revolutionary and successful, Im sure Ill read about it one day in a journal.
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
Griff.....you've completely misunderstood my point.....Im not saying that dental research is bad...of course not. Im the biggest proponent of any type of scientific research cause it only betters and advances our society.....so I have the utmost respect for anyone that does research....especially dental research (since it is my career).

However, the point I was making was that going to a school where most of the profs focus on research does nothing for my dental education at the moment.....

There are tons and tons of dentists out there who are trying to come up with new materials and techniques.....but how many of them actually get accredited and how many actually become mainstream???? Only a very few.

Of course during my career Ill be reading up on journals to keep up with the growing field.....but during these 4 years, just teach me the basics, get me out of here and let me worry about establishing myself first.....worrying about my prof's research that will most likely either not go anywhere or personally benefit him financially matters nothing to me. If what they are doing is very revolutionary and successful, Im sure Ill read about it one day in a journal.

Nevermind then.
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
3rdMolarRoller said:
Unless you're going into research, I dont understand why having "HUGE name dental researchers" makes the school any better for the students....frankly I dont give a $hit what my profs do other than teach me what I need to get out of here.

Please enlighten me, because I hear the same thing from Ivy League students and Im always confused on why students would care if their profs are, for instance inventing new products/materials or analzying the bacterial content of an apical abscess. All the power to them, but it doesnt personally benefit me at all.

Gary Ruska here,
GR thinks that Dr. Bad Vibes needs to chill out...Not everyone can be lucky enough to go to Temple...

Chill out, Mr. Gupta.
 
gary_ruska said:
Dr.BadVibes said:
Gary Ruska here,
GR thinks that Dr. Bad Vibes needs to chill out...Not everyone can be lucky enough to go to Temple...

Chill out, Mr. Gupta.

Hey Ruska...Im chill....just trying to make a point thats all....

By the way, you're mom gives the BEST head....the best!
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
gary_ruska said:
Hey Ruska...Im chill....just trying to make a point thats all....

By the way, you're mom gives the BEST head....the best!

You might want to check yourself. GR's mother passed away about five years ago from breast cancer.

Avin Gupta, you are a classy guy - GR hopes that everyone reading this will see that. By the way, Avin, nice grammar - y-o-u-r means "your", possessive, y-o-u-'-r-e means "you are".
 
my two cents.

I am an NYUCD graduate, as a matter of fact the first class to graduate from the new curriculum.

I can tell you that a lot of my classmates, myself included, did not have too much respect for the dean. For starters, i only met the guy twice. I wanted to meet with him one on one, after my second year, but the guy just refused to see me.

He is extremely impersonal. He rarely cared about the students, was seldom present at any dean's meeting we had.

His second in command Vogel is probably one of the worst faculty at NYU. Just go up to 5CD and see how he treats the students.

Frankly speaking, i hope NYU gets a dean which is more amicable and friendly, especially towards students. Yeah he is a great businessman, but he always looks for the bigger better deal.
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
gary_ruska said:
Hey Ruska...Im chill....just trying to make a point thats all....

By the way, you're mom gives the BEST head....the best!
You are a complete idiot. You are a dental student and look at your comments. I wish I could show these comments to your club and your frat to show them who you truly are. They would be proud.
 
gary_ruska said:
Dr.BadVibes said:
You might want to check yourself. GR's mother passed away about five years ago from breast cancer.

Avin Gupta, you are a classy guy - GR hopes that everyone reading this will see that. By the way, Avin, nice grammar - y-o-u-r means "your", possessive, y-o-u-'-r-e means "you are".

Sorry about your mom.....she still gave it good though.

By the way, thanks for the grammar correction......sometimes when you are posting quickly on an online forum, you tend to forget (or care) about simple grammatical errors, but I do appreciate you pointing it out for me. By the way, what does an Avin Gupta mean??
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
Sorry about your mom.....she still gave it good though.

By the way, thanks for the grammar correction......sometimes when you are posting quickly on an online forum, you tend to forget (or care) about simple grammatical errors, but I do appreciate you pointing it out for me. By the way, what does an Avin Gupta mean??

dude, quit being a dick, what's the matter with you?
 
Dental916 said:
Dr.BadVibes said:
You are a complete idiot. You are a dental student and look at your comments. I wish I could show these comments to your club and your frat to show them who you truly are. They would be proud.

being a dental student doesnt mean you are some all mighty professional person that cant express his/her own opinions....whether you believe or not, all dental students are different and all have their own opinions and are free to express them.....we arent politicians.

By the way, I talk the same way at school with my classmates.....fortunately my classmates arent tools like you and are chill.
 
phremius said:
dude, quit being a dick, what's the matter with you?

I aint being a dick douchebag....if you havent noticed, Gary Ruska and myself know each other. And he is well aware of his late mom's amazing talents.

Anyways, enough with the personal jabs....why dont we go back and talk about my original point....the importance of research in dental school...alright?
 
Phremius...I mean douchebag, don't you wish you could post over 2000 times with long ass replies and be really cool on studentdoctor ey? :laugh:
 
Dental916 said:
Phremius...I mean douchebag, don't you wish you could post over 2000 times with long ass replies and be really cool on studentdoctor ey? :laugh:

You dont even realize just how cool I really am.
 
Dr.BadVibes said:
You dont even realize just how cool I really am.

Stop harassing other users and keep the posts on topic. I don't care if you know the guy - name calling and sexually explicit references are not appreciated and you are well aware that they are violations of the TOS.
 
OMFSwannabe said:
His second in command Vogel is probably one of the worst faculty at NYU. Just go up to 5CD and see how he treats the students.

I agree with that one. Holy crap does that guy need to chill out. That guy either needs to leave or learn how to teach.

Although, I thought Alfano was student friendly. I had to send him a few emails on some serious issues I was having and he responded within 1-2 hours and corrected the problems I was having. Also, at the school parties he was willing to talk to anyone including lowly me for a good amount of time. But then again, my contact with him was still limited I guess.
 
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