ODD Testing

[loveoforganic]

Hey guys,

I was going through a list of psychological tests trying to find something ODD-related, but the best I can find are behavior checklists, e.g. the Quay-Peterson RBPC, which has a conduct disorder dimension, but not one specific to ODD. Are there any ODD-specific tests or tests with ODD-specific dimensions that you could point me toward?

TYIA

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[Ollie123]

Dislcaimer: I avoid child psych like the plague. After all, kids are pretty germy😉

Anyways, unless I'm remembering wrong they are coupled tightly enough that I'm not sure it would even be possible to write a scale that picked up on ODD but not CD (akin to trying to capture substance abuse but not dependence). On the other hand, if you are just looking for scales that capture dimensions that may be of relevance to both there may be some options.

Its another checklist, but Achenbach's CBCL (Child Behavior Checklist) is the first one that comes to mind. Its been many years since I've looked at one, but I think it has subscales for aggression, rule-breaking, etc.

Edit: Google, and ye shall receive. http://ebx.sagepub.com/content/18/4/247.abstract

 

[loveoforganic]

I think you're right, I may have been hoping for too much sensitivity in scales, given their close relationship. I'll look up the CBCL, thank you!

 

[loveoforganic]

The CBCL will serve what I was looking for, thank you again. Should have been looking for subtests that got at the characteristics of the disorder rather than the disorder itself.

 

[Ollie123]

Wayyyyyy outside my comfort zone, so glad I could help.

If you truly want to distinguish them without involving some kind of extensive clinical interviewing, you might consider setting an upper cutoff or including measures of CD as well for decisions about inclusion. Both are far from ideal, but likely better than nothing (than again I have a "better to have the data and not need it" approach to research design). Wasn't clear if you were trying to "rule out" CD, or just capture ODD symptoms in a sample that might include both so that is really only relevant with the former. Again, I think the latter would be very hard to do...given how the DSM is structured its pretty much a given that anyone with CD would likely also be endorsing high levels of ODD criteria, hence the reason the CD diagnosis trumps ODD.

 

[loveoforganic]

My drive for asking was purely academic, not practical, so that's probably why my expectations weren't well developed. I know about the overlap/differentiation between ODD/CD, but didn't immediately think about how the two would practically be differentiated on a scale. It makes sense to have a scale with subtests that gets at facets of each, rather than having a scale that tests positive for ODD/CD every time someone presents with CD, not to mention that the diagnosis alone isn't that worthwhile given the variability in symptoms that can be present within each disorder.

 

[mshbe]

The CBCL is pretty good. Another widely used instrument that may be useful is the Conners-3, which is mainly a scale for ADHD but also has scales for ODD, CD, and some other associated features of these disorders.

 

[loveoforganic]

The Conners is also helpful, thank you!

 

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