OMFS/facial plastics

[doublejab]

---

Members don't see this ad.

Hello!

What is the difference between OMFS and Facial Plastic Surgury?

Thanks🙂😛

 

[wizziefiend]

Hello!

What is the difference between OMFS and Facial Plastic Surgury?

Thanks🙂😛

Probably the true day-to-day procedures.

O, and one is a medical, the other is dental.

And OMFS is apparently easier to spell. Less vowels, I understand.

 

[armorshell]

Probably the true day-to-day procedures.

O, and one is a medical, the other is dental.

And OMFS is apparently easier to spell. Less vowels, I understand.

OMG y u type things liek this this is board to help people not to make funs of them u should clerly not be a dentist

 

[predentn]

Probably the true day-to-day procedures.

O, and one is a medical, the other is dental.

And OMFS is apparently easier to spell. Less vowels, I understand.

OMG y u type things liek this this is board to help people not to make funs of them u should clerly not be a dentist

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[armorshell]

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[Meatwad]

Hello!

What is the difference between OMFS and Facial Plastic Surgury?

Thanks🙂😛

Depends... are you talking about a plastics MD with a fellowship, an ENT with a 1 year facial plastics fellowship, or a DO who did an oto-facial plastics residency?

Here's an old thread, but it's probably all still relevant.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/archive/index.php/t-53901.html

 

[wizziefiend]

Depends... are you talking about a plastics MD with a fellowship, an ENT with a 1 year facial plastics fellowship, or a DO who did an oto-facial plastics residency?

Here's an old thread, but it's probably all still relevant.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/archive/index.php/t-53901.html

No you're wrong. He is comparing a DDS specialty with an MD specialty.

Not a DO specialty with an MD specialty...which I find an odd comparison anyway.

 

[Motown]

No you're wrong. He is comparing a DDS specialty with an MD specialty.

Not a DO specialty with an MD specialty...which I find an odd comparison anyway.

Actually....this is an educated distinction. All of the above are candidates for facial cosmetic surgery fellowships....and the training differs significantly prior to this point.

To qualify, Board certification in the following specialties must be granted by a certifying board recognized by the American Board of Medical Specialties (ABMS), the American Osteopathic Association (AOA), the American Board of Oral-Maxillofacial Surgery (ABOMS), or by a foreign board deemed equivalent to the following boards. For the purposes of qualification, the Academy shall determine whether a foreign board is deemed equivalent.
a. Dermatology
b. General Surgery
c. Ophthalmology, with an Oculoplastic fellowship
d. Oral/Maxillofacial Surgery, with a valid U.S. or Canadian license to practice medicine (MD/DO)
e. Otolaryngology (head and neck)
f. Plastic Surgery

From: http://www.cosmeticsurgery.org/Surgeons/education.asp#fcs

 

[wizziefiend]

Actually....this is an educated distinction. All of the above are candidates for facial cosmetic surgery fellowships....and the training differs significantly prior to this point.

To qualify, Board certification in the following specialties must be granted by a certifying board recognized by the American Board of Medical Specialties (ABMS), the American Osteopathic Association (AOA), the American Board of Oral-Maxillofacial Surgery (ABOMS), or by a foreign board deemed equivalent to the following boards. For the purposes of qualification, the Academy shall determine whether a foreign board is deemed equivalent.
a. Dermatology
b. General Surgery
c. Ophthalmology, with an Oculoplastic fellowship
d. Oral/Maxillofacial Surgery, with a valid U.S. or Canadian license to practice medicine (MD/DO)
e. Otolaryngology (head and neck)
f. Plastic Surgery

From: http://www.cosmeticsurgery.org/Surgeons/education.asp#fcs

Yes, your statements are correct. The previous post was trying to compare DO and MD...when the original post was regarding DDS vs MD.

Is the link you provided the organization that is way over run with dermatologists who have little to no surgical management? I've heard a few bits about that and just wondering what people think. I've heard it being termed a 'deceptive board' that has little control nor significant required qualifications (other than the obvious training above mentioned) that are specific for facial esthetic surgery (example: a dermatologist with no sx training beyond simple incisions and tissue removal, an OMFS at a program weak in general/facial surgery, etc)

 

[ihateteeth]

Yes, your statements are correct. The previous post was trying to compare DO and MD...when the original post was regarding DDS vs MD.

Is the link you provided the organization that is way over run with dermatologists who have little to no surgical management? I've heard a few bits about that and just wondering what people think. I've heard it being termed a 'deceptive board' that has little control nor significant required qualifications (other than the obvious training above mentioned) that are specific for facial esthetic surgery (example: a dermatologist with no sx training beyond simple incisions and tissue removal, an OMFS at a program weak in general/facial surgery, etc)

(example: a dermatologist with no sx training beyond simple incisions and tissue removal, an OMFS at a program weak in general/facial surgery, etc)
......or a PRS at a program that spends <10% of their time on the face/head, or an ENT at a program that does almost completely tonsils/tubes/trachs.

Point is, each specialty has programs that focus more/less on facial cosmetics and that is why we have fellowships. In my opinion, the quality of a facial cosmetic surgeon should not be based upon the specialty he/she chose....before they even had a clue as to what surgery really is.
I think we should pay more attention to surgeons practicing outside the scope of their training, not their specialty.

 

[Meatwad]

Yes, your statements are correct. The previous post was trying to compare DO and MD...when the original post was regarding DDS vs MD.

Is the link you provided the organization that is way over run with dermatologists who have little to no surgical management? I've heard a few bits about that and just wondering what people think. I've heard it being termed a 'deceptive board' that has little control nor significant required qualifications (other than the obvious training above mentioned) that are specific for facial esthetic surgery (example: a dermatologist with no sx training beyond simple incisions and tissue removal, an OMFS at a program weak in general/facial surgery, etc)

My post was pointing out that the OP's question was flawed. He asked the difference between a DDS OMFS and a Facial Plastics doctor. So I had to gain more information, hence the MD vs DO comparison, about what the OP specifically was inquiring about. The training is different depending on the route the surgeon takes. Comparing an OMFS with a PRS with Facial Plastics fellowship is different than comparing an OMFS with a regular Oto-facial plastics DO. So cool down there, big man.

 

[ihateteeth]

Thanks, I feel better now.

 

[Motown]

Yes, your statements are correct. The previous post was trying to compare DO and MD...when the original post was regarding DDS vs MD.

Oh, I'm sorry - I guess I didn't see that in the OP...(did you?)

So cool down there, big man.

At any rate... I think this is along the lines of the original post.

Facial Plastic Surgeon Focused on Head and Neck
http://www.aafprs.org/patient/about_us/fps_vs_gs.html

6-year Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery Residency
Four Years College
Four Years of Dental School
6 Years of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery
- (Between 18 and 30 or so months in Medical School - depends on the program)
- (1 year General Surgery)
1-2 years Fellowship in Facial Cosmetic Surgery (optional)

The scope, amount/types of surgeries, and quality of training depends heavily on the Attending Surgeons and varies significantly from program to program regardless of the specialty.

 

[High Desert Doc]

...or you could be in a program that does quite a number of head and neck plastics and you may not need to do a fellowship....good luck

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

I think we should pay more attention to surgeons practicing outside the scope of their training, not their specialty.

Exactly! 👍