one year masters programs

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Hi, after graduating this Spring, I am considering a one-year masters program in MPH or Clinical Science but can't find such programs in Cali schools. Anyone know any in Cali or elsewhere?

 

[soy sauce]

It's too late to apply for Fall 2007; you have plenty of time to think this over. On a side note, medical schools know that grad courses have a much easier curve (or none at all) compared to undergrad courses, so your grad gpa has little weight in the decisions process. Best of luck making plans for next year.

 

[DrMidlife]

Look in the postbac forum: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/forumdisplay.php?f=71.

There are programs called "SMP" (special masters programs) or "gap year" programs that might be interesting to you. April is usually the app cutoff.

 

[effwun]

It's too late to apply for Fall 2007; you have plenty of time to think this over. On a side note, medical schools know that grad courses have a much easier curve (or none at all) compared to undergrad courses, so your grad gpa has little weight in the decisions process. Best of luck making plans for next year.

There are plenty of stories around SND where someone had a sub-3.0 GPA and went to grad school, kicked ass, and got into a good allo school, sometimes, even with a scholarship. Soy may be right about it being too late for Fall 2007, but there are probably a few more. I found a link somewhere on SDN that you can search the AAMC website for post-bacc/SMP programs. Look around on this forum, I think that's where I found it.

 

[effwun]

Found the link:

http://services.aamc.org/postbac/

pretty helpful because you can search by state, and grad or post-bacc programs

 

[imrep1972]

Just a small correction:

It is not too late too apply for many Special Masters Programs for 2007. I know the OP asked about MPH programs and the like, but since effwun brought up the SMP's, I just thought I'd add that bit.

It's too late to apply for Fall 2007; you have plenty of time to think this over. On a side note, medical schools know that grad courses have a much easier curve (or none at all) compared to undergrad courses, so your grad gpa has little weight in the decisions process. Best of luck making plans for next year.

 

[relentless11]

UC med schools typically have some MPH program associated with them. UCB and UCD have such programs (UCB coupled with UCSF). These programs are normally intended for MD/MPH students so I'm not sure how long it is for doing JUST an MPH.

The application deadline for UC grad schools is around April-May. UCB may be different since they are on the semester system. UCD also has an MPVM program which is the veterinary equivalent to the MPH. There isn't much difference since you take the same statistics and public health classes with the MPH students. In fact, back in the day, some of our physicians graduated med school with an MPVM when UCD didn't have an official MPH program.

On a side note, medical schools know that grad courses have a much easier curve (or none at all) compared to undergrad courses, so your grad gpa has little weight in the decisions process. Best of luck making plans for next year.

This actually depends. For one, some of the MPH classes may be med school level classes. Here at UC Davis, our medical statistics course (MPM 402, 403 and 404) are professional schoo level (ie: med school). Graduate school at UC Davis are 200-series classes.

True, undergrad courses are weighted "more", but graduate GPA is taken on a case-by-case basis because (1) it may be 2-4 years since the person did undergrad, (2) the person may have taken med school level classes which are technically included as "graduate GPA",. This is why SMP's work. You take med school level classes, and this improves your chances to get in despite them being counted as graduate GPA. (3) they may have taken undergrad classes as electives during the graduate program, which on their transcript falls under graduate GPA, but under AMCAS, actually falls into post-bacc GPA. The proper statement about grad GPA vs. undergrad GPA is that they are completely different. Apples and oranges. Although we normally say on SDN that undergrad GPA is more weighted, its really due to the fact that you can't compare a person with a PhD with a person who has just a BS. What are you going to do? Compare grad level physical organic chemistry (yes there is such a thing) to an undergrads ochem experience? No way. So hence the case-by-case basis.

To emphasize the "case-by-case" nature of graduate GPA vs. undergrad GPA, you can have someone who didn't even have an undergrad GPA, yet did amazingly well in graduate school. One of our SDN mods was in that situation and they got into med school. In another example, UC Davis School of Medicine (my school), actually gives the applicant an "extra point" on their application score card if they have a graduate GPA of greater than 3.8. The same applies for undergrad grades of 3.7 and above.

Lastly, I wouldn't call graduate level classes having an easier curve. Grad school classes are taught differently and I'm sure fellow SDNers can vouch for the fact that grad school classes can be amazingly easy, or even harder than med school classes. I took med school level and grad school level pharmacology. The grad school one was much harder...due to the experimental nature of the questions. I wouldn't make assumptions unless you did a full graduate level program at a reputable institution. For example, the UC's and pretty much every other university out there boots you out of grad school if you get a B- in any class. You are expected to do well because: (1) this is supposedly what you want to do, and (2) the grad student's are chump change either. All of my grad classes here at UC Davis were on a normal 90, 80, 70 grading scale. I'd challenge any undergrad to take graduate level biomedical engineering, or med school level classes and say that it was easier or graded easier.😉

 

[Lindyhopper]

It's too late to apply for Fall 2007 . . .

That's not universally true. SMP programs often accept people who didn't get into Med school. These people often apply late to SMPs. But get on it in a hurry.

 

[mlcal06]

in terms of doing a MPH at Berkeley there are two ways.. one is if you do MD/MPH, but that is through UCSF. You actually apply to UCSF for med school and then can through that apply to the Joint Medical Program which is setup for you to do a masters at Berkeley. an awesome program!

if you're looking to do just a MPH, Berkeley has that too (it is afterall, one of the best public health schools in the country) but the app was due back in december for the coming fall i believe.

 

[Rorasaurus]

It's not too late to apply to Loyola MAMS... I wouldn't want to leave Cali if I were you either, but Chicago is fun too! 🙂 I'm in the program this year and it's going to be really helpful as a re-applicant. Do your research on different SMP programs and get on it quickly. If you applied this year, you can use a lot of your same materials (LORs and even essays) when applying to SMP programs.