fair enough, but that is more likely the exception than the rule
Right, that doesn't sound like anything that would restrict getting IS tuition for years 2,3,4. Just a bunch of hoops. Thanks for posting. @Dr.SPAC3MAN was suggesting it's not common.
Correct. It's just that a lot of states, to prevent us doing exactly what we would all like to do, do not allow any of the usual rules to apply while you are a full time student. This is why you are locked into whatever your state of residence was at the time of matriculation, regardless of driver's license, voter registration, or anything else.
Being a full time student typically implies not financially independent for undergrad. Many states do qualify residency through continued domicile in-state and financially independence- not receiving funds from parents nor being claimed on someone else’s taxes as a dependent (which many med students can be up to the age of 26).
I don't believe so. Consistent with many other states, "beyond the circumstances of being a student" would mean there is nothing you can do to get residency while a full time student. The answer in such states is normally to take a one year break from school (a gap year, for example) and get a full time job in order to establish residency.
True, but, whether or not you are financially independent does not matter if they do not offer residency for full time grad students (e.g., medical students). It's a specific carve out just to make sure that people from OOS who come for school do not become IS after one year. Most states have this, but some don't.
I highly recommend reaching out to your programs registrar’s office as they will have the info needed regarding the process and documentation required to switch to in state tuition, if it is allowed. The registrar’s office typically handles matters of enrollment and interpreting state statutes and guidelines. If this path is indeed allowed, they will be able to provide guidance as many students will have likely done this before. Additionally, they will know all the deadlines associated with this process as well as any appeals process should the determination not go as planned.
Correct, if you are listed as a dependent you cannot be considered independent. Your parent are going to have to file an amended tax return without you as a dependent but this will incur additional taxes on them as they won’t have your deductions. In all honesty, it is unlikely you will be determined to be independent if you were in school for part of the year, even if your taxes say you are independent.
You can be financially independent and in school. You just can't be independent if you're parents are claiming you as a dependent on their tax returns.
If I wanted to be OOS my first two years and IS my last two years, then I would file independently the next two yes. the school said I could show financial independence by working a job while in med school. Isn’t that frowned upon? The office themselves said the school will tell u not to work but it might be a means to an end. How could I show financial independence if I am financing my education through loans and not working? Don’t most students just use loans entirely?
That’s not what @xfann624 said.
I graduated undergrad in 2020. I’m asking about a program in Arizona. So the two years they’d look at would be 2020 and 2021 as I’d be applying in 2022.
I mean determined by the school to be sufficiently independent for establishing residency purposes. But you’re right, I think independent is the wrong term here. Most states have some kind of qualifier that if you are in school beyond X credits per term you cannot use it as evidence to support a claim of residency.
I'm not familiar with the tax return stuff (I'm pretty sure your parents cannot claim you as a dependent), but you shouldn't have to work. If you are taking out max loans, and paying all of your expenses from those (this includes car insurance and phone bills), that should suffice.
I don’t know really but it will probably be part of the reason you are denied OOS tuition. There seems to be more reasons to deny you IS residency than approve it at the momment.
Yes. Scholarships are not included in the calculation. If your parents claimed you as a "dependent," you are not, by definition, "independent"!
Wait a minute, I thought you had another post about two acceptances and not wanting to PTE by Friday. So you haven’t even applied yet, let alone have two acceptances? 😳🤔
I have to prove two years of financial independence prior to applying for in state tutition at UA. I have been accepted to UA. I would start in fall of this year and apply in summer of 2022 for in state residency. I would pay OOS tuition my first year.
