Options for low GPA after graduation?

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Hey guys, so my stats when I graduate will be the following (no, not a top university):

cGPA: 3.025
sGPA: 1.804 (please read below)
uGPA: 3.184

I have only taken ONE of my pre-reqs (Bio I (got a B), and failed Chemistry once.

What are my options? Should I just grade replace my low grades and apply DO? Or, do I have a chance at an Allopathic program, as long as I get straight A's and show a strong upward trend? Just looking for opinions here. I have no issues with going osteopathic. Keep in mind I have ~125 semester hours.

Fire away, I need some honest opinions......

-Chris
 
I was in almost your exact situation. I had completed 4 years of school with a 3.1, and my science GPA was poor (2.33) but it was only an average of 3 courses -- much like your situation.

What I did was move somewhere where I had a good support network and where I could live rent-free, get a part-time job to pay for basic expenses aside from the rent you don't need to pay (phone, gas, car insurance), and then take full-time coursework at community college until you qualify for in-state tuition at your local 4-year university. Then take courses full-time there.

Try to take 15-16 credits (minimum) each semester, and make sure they are all or nearly all science classes. Get all A's, which should be pretty easy your first semester or two when taking community college classes.

You should be taking courses in fall, spring, and summer so you can fit 3 semesters into a year. If you can, take elective science coursework at the 2 year school and the core pre-reqs at the 4 year university -- this is the opposite of the natural order. But only do this if you have a strong background in, say, engineering, or have seen the pre-req material before but it's not on your college transcript (e.g. AP courses in HS, so forth). The fewer pre-reqs you take at community college, the better off you'll be.

Anyway, if you do summer '14, fall '14, spring '15, summer '15, fall '15, spring '16, getting a 4.0 every semester and averaging 15-16 credits per semester, you will have 90-96 credits of straight A's after college, AND you will have gotten A's in all your pre-reqs (at least recently). You then want to take the MCAT at the end of the spring 2016 semester, which means you need to have started studying in January of 2016 or so. You want to score whatever the equivalent of a mid-30's score or higher ends up being on the new MCAT scale (out of 60 rather than 45).

In the midst of all of this, continue to gain clinical experience or improve on areas of your application that are lacking besides GPA. You'll want research, clinical experience, volunteering, and maybe even tutoring if you have time. Keep in mind you're probably gonna be working part-time throughout unless you can afford to freeload with family for 2 years (which, by all means, do it!)

If you do all of that, and it all works out perfectly, you should get some allopathic interviews. That's the plan I made for myself, though my GPA was 101 credits from undergrad due to ~20 credits of P/F on my transcript from freshman year. Everything worked out and I'll be attending an allopathic program in the fall.

If you aren't really up for all that, just do grade replacement. Retake any class you got below a B- in and get A's in all of them and your GPA will be ready for DO schools in half the time. Going osteopathic will take some pressure off when it comes MCAT time as well.

I won't blame you if you don't want to have every moment of your life for the next 3 years fixing your academic record and getting into medical school. For me, it has certainly come at the cost of every other aspect of my life. I'm now singler, broker, heavier, with little time for socializing. And I'm completely satisfied with my decision 🙂 But if you're even remotely sane, you should probably go DO.
 
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If you don't mind me asking, why have you only took one pre-req? Back on topic, DO is definitely a good route to go! If you want to apply to an allopathic school it may take some more time to get your gpa back up. You have to ask yourself if you want to invest that much time or just go the DO route.
 
Thanks for the help wiloghby! Glad someone else has been in my situation. My problem is that I cannot receive financial aid anymore, so this will all be out of pocket. Hence why I am hesitant to try to take classes at the 4-year uni near me (NC State, Duke, UNC-CH) as they are expensive LOL.

Spitphire, it stems from a long journey of starting as a Nursing major, then wanting to go Pre-med, then not having the confidence to do it and changing again to my safety net (Psychology). I've worked on my self-confidence issues for a while now with a therapist and this is something I really want and know I can do now.
 
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Let me add that after calculation, I'm looking at a $5,000 DIFFERENCE if I just took my pre-reqs at CC vs my local University ($2500 vs. $7800)
 
If you have only taken 2 pre-requisite courses, remember that you won't be able to apply until you take 2 Physics classes, 4 Chemistry courses, etc. which will take approximately 2 years unless you take both of your Organic Chemistry classes the summer after General Chemistry.

Since finances are a problematic, you're in a bit of a bind because you want to show an admissions committee that you can handle rigorous medical school coursework. As someone who has taught courses in the NC system, CC courses are noticeably easier than the same courses a 4-year university. I tutor a number of students in Chemistry at Carolina and Chemistry 101 is exponentially harder than the same course at Wake Tech/Durham Tech, Chemistry 151. I think that some of the ad coms on the board (Goro, LizzyM, et al) have stated that their schools have expressed concerns about students who take their pre-reqs at a community college.

If I were in your shoes, I would focus on DO because your cumulative GPA, without pre-reqs, is around the 3.0 range and that isn't very competitive for MD programs. IMO, the fact that you did fail Chemistry at ECU is a bit of cause for concern because you will likely have to double up your science classes (taking Biology & Chemistry together). I think that DO is much more reasonable at this point. Good Luck!
 
I was in a similar situation as well. I had a slightly lower cGPA than you after undergrad. I took slightly less than 50 post-bacc units, did well on the mcat, and got some clinical work, research, and TA experience. I also had a good reason for my undergrad gpa which I spoke about in my essay and was a part of my story. I will say though, my grades were not brought up once and the one time someone looked at my academic record in front of me they said it was very impressive. So don't stress so much, if you believe you can get top grades in post-bacc courses and medicine is what you wanna do, go for it.

But figure out why you didn't do well in undergrad and figure out if medicine is really for you before you apply. Good luck!
 
Very inspirational thread, I first went to the University of Arizona for a year and got all E's (F's) in prereq courses cause I was young, immature, and pretty much an idiot. Now I have a 3.82 GPA, continue to do clinical hours at my medical internship, and also research as well with various leadership positions in other programs. Hard work definitely shows it seems!
 
If I have to go to a university, I will get it done. I guess I can take a personal loan from my parents or something.
 
You have a lot of damage done to you GPAs. At this ppoint, you are not competitive for MD or DO schools.

Fastest and best bet is to first, re-take that F, and then ace the resat of your science pre-reqs. Utilize AACOMAS' grade replacement policy and apply to DO programs.

For MD, I recommend a SMP, preferably one given by a medical school. You'll need to ace that, and ace MCAT as well. There are schools that reward reinvention

Hey guys, so my stats when I graduate will be the following (no, not a top university):

cGPA: 3.025
sGPA: 1.804 (please read below)
uGPA: 3.184

I have only taken ONE of my pre-reqs (Bio I (got a B), and failed Chemistry once.

What are my options? Should I just grade replace my low grades and apply DO? Or, do I have a chance at an Allopathic program, as long as I get straight A's and show a strong upward trend? Just looking for opinions here. I have no issues with going osteopathic. Keep in mind I have ~125 semester hours.

Fire away, I need some honest opinions......

-Chris
 
Thanks for the feedback Goro. I realize I have a bit of work to do. Honestly, the DO route is probably going to be the best route for me with regards to the grade replacement policy. I have no problems going DO (despite most of the people on this forum lol). I feel like I am going to make myself nuts trying to become competitive for MD (Unless I decide for SMP)

I'm going to work as hard as I can. I really want this. It's nice to FINALLY know what I want to do with my life. It just sucks that it took this long.
 
Maybe do post-bac get a 4.0 to boost up that cumulative. Take all the pre-reqs get A's and your science GPA could end up being very high since you only have two classes as of now counting towards it. The bigger issue is the overall GPA--its at a 3.o, but weighed down with 120 credits. So ace the pre-reqs get science GPA above 3.7 and get overall to at least 3.3 or 3.4 territory and ROCK the MCAT and you could be in discussion for allopathic schools. Obviously DO would be the quicker more efficient route, providing your cool with that (which seems you are) I say just take the pre-reqs, MCAT and apply.
 
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