oraganic chemistry-stereocenter

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how many stereocenter are in the picture?

isn't stereocenter the C surrounded by 4 different atoms?
I don't see any C that is surrounded by 4 different atoms.
but the answer is 4.
 
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how many stereocenter are in the picture?

isn't stereocenter the C surrounded by 4 different atoms?
I don't see any C that is surrounded by 4 different atoms.
but the answer is 4.

there are 4...3 on the cyclic molecule, and one on the bottem hydrocarbon chain

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there are 4...3 on the cyclic molecule, and one on the bottem hydrocarbon chain

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the one on the bottom of hydrocarbon chain,
it is connected to 2C, 1OH and 1H.
if stereocenter means surrounded by 4 different atom, it's already surrounded by 2 same atom, 2C so how do i call it stereocenter?

and the top one of cyclic molecule is surrounded by 3C and 1H so it's surrounded by 3 same atom, 3C, ain't i right?
 
the one on the bottom of hydrocarbon chain,
it is connected to 2C, 1OH and 1H.
if stereocenter means surrounded by 4 different atom, it's already surrounded by 2 same atom, 2C so how do i call it stereocenter?

and the top one of cyclic molecule is surrounded by 3C and 1H so it's surrounded by 3 same atom, 3C, ain't i right?

you cant just end at Carbon...you have to keep going, like a tiebreaker. One of the Carbons is bonded to two H's and another C and the other Carbon has a double bond to another carbon with one H making it different. Same situation with the cyclic molecule...keep going if they are the same until they run into eachother/end up at a different atom/or end.
 
The point isn't that the carbon has to be connected to 4 different atoms, a stereogenic center is a carbon atom bonded to 4 different substitutent groups. Those groups can be anything different. An ethyl group is different from a methyl group, a carbonyl group is different from a carboxyl group. Even though the next atom to the stereogenic center atom is still a carbon in all the cases I stated above, the GROUP is different.
 
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