Organize and advocate for reducing pathology training spots

[Med Director New England]

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Folks is there anything more we could do here to in an organized and professional way send a clear message to CAP, ABP, etc about the problem with overtraining.

I am pretty sure i would thoroughly enjoy having a beer and chatting with frequent posters on this forum about all things pathology. There are clearly a lot of smart folks in this forum and a lot of practice experience in different regions.

Wonder if the CAP or USCAP would ever a accept a round table proposal at one of the national meetings to gather pathologists to talk about this? Would be edgy but I bet hundreds would sign up.

I have fought expansion of programs every chance I have gotten but this has been at the local level only. Other than that I haven’t done too much.

Any thoughts?

Happy holidays

 

[y2k_free_radical]

Sign me up-MERRY CHRISTMAS to all

 

[jupiterianvibe]

This is an amazing idea.

Collect hard data. Present hard data. The numbers will speak for themselves.

BUT what you should do is MISDIRECT THE DATA IN THE ABSTRACT AND PRESENT THE TRUTH AT THE MEETING. Otherwise they will surely block the presentation, as private equity has their grubby fingers in the pot and directly benefit from oversupply.

 

[LADoc00]

The hard data is already out there. The key thing would be put the residency training slots in Path versus the actual feeder specialties that create Path specimens to show the imbalance vs the community. If I was a super gunner, I would even go to a CAP meeting and present a poster of this. Alas, Im nowhere near as motivated as I was once was...

 

[Med Director New England]

The most difficult part of this is an objective measure of "oversupply"... I know for sure it is harder for new grads now to get a job than it was 10-15 yrs ago but hard to prove this notion. I also know for sure job offers on the east coast (not just New England) that folks are getting now would be appalling to people in practice >10 yrs.

Employed paths signing out nearly 7,000 RVUs and making less than 150K is common. This is beyond absurb considering how much the employer is keeping off the back of the jr pathologist. this can only happen with a huge over supply of the employed labor (i.e us)

 

[peachesorangesapples]

Agreed. As a current MS4 on the interview trail, there are too many programs with insufficient volume and resources and should be closed or consolidated. Bad for the entire field.