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Can anyone comment on the ortho programs in Chicago (specifically Northwestern, UIC, Loyola)? Competitiveness, atmosphere, training, quality of life? Any info would be appreciated...
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Rush is prob the best in the city.. U of C is great as well. others on here can offer more info.. Loyola is a very hard working place.
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We could have an hour long conversation on this, but basically from the grapevine:
1) Northwestern: Mentor-design. Some people really like that. Lots of private patients. For better or worse, they have a reputation for only taking their own rotators. National reputation.
2) Loyola: Good mix of VA and non-VA patients. Solid OR experience, great chair--very well known. May be lean on research. Diamond among the rough.
3) UIC: Has a reputation for the residents being on their own a lot. Fellows floating around. Grads still feel well trained.
4) UofC: Notoriously academic. Smart guys. Lean on adult trauma. The residents go to Loyola for trauma. Lots and lots of tumor. A+ chair, very well known. Solid program.
5) Rush: Lots of fellows. Have heard: "Great place to do a fellowship, but not as good for a residency." May be top-heavy with OR time and experience. Nationally known.
You ought to get multiple opinions as everyone has their own take on things.
Hope this helps,
1) Northwestern: Mentor-design. Some people really like that. Lots of private patients. For better or worse, they have a reputation for only taking their own rotators. National reputation.
2) Loyola: Good mix of VA and non-VA patients. Solid OR experience, great chair--very well known. May be lean on research. Diamond among the rough.
3) UIC: Has a reputation for the residents being on their own a lot. Fellows floating around. Grads still feel well trained.
4) UofC: Notoriously academic. Smart guys. Lean on adult trauma. The residents go to Loyola for trauma. Lots and lots of tumor. A+ chair, very well known. Solid program.
5) Rush: Lots of fellows. Have heard: "Great place to do a fellowship, but not as good for a residency." May be top-heavy with OR time and experience. Nationally known.
You ought to get multiple opinions as everyone has their own take on things.
Hope this helps,
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moquito_17 said:
How about Advocate Lutheran General? It's listed in US News & World Report in the top 50 hospitals in the US for Orthopedic Surgery. LGH was also named by Modern Healthcare as one of the top 15 major teaching hospitals in the nation in a list including Mayo Clinics St. Marys Hospital, Boston Medical Center, University of Texas Health System, and Yale-New Haven Hospital. LGH is an 8-time winner of this award, more than any other hospital in the nation.
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diabeticfootdr said:
Lutheran doesn't have an orthopaedic surgery residency program.
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you might try a search on orthogate for this as I know it's covered there, but....I rotated at NW and interviewed at Loyola and UIC, so
NW-Usually 8 of 9 spots are reserved for rotators, so rotate if you are really interested. Sports is great, trauma is a little light, and at times the upper level residents retract too much. Still a good program though. In the nicest part of chicago. Not much clinic, so the decision making ability of the residents may not be a strong point and they have sat conference, in addition to morning conference most days of the week.
Loyola-Great program, In my opinion, the best in chicago. Operate early, well-rounded, very supportive chair. I don't think they work any harder than many other programs, they do have a night float. No true foot/ankle rotation. they do have a full 6 month research rotation third or fourth year which is much more dedicated time than most other programs
UIC-Not as bad as their reputation might indicate. I believe they rotate at advocate lutheran. Tons (too much?) of clinic early. Saturday conference stinks. Really work at a lot of hospitals which may be good or bad. I didn't get the impression that there were many/any fellows here. Definately a blue collar program
All programs are competitive, but UIC is definitely the least competitive of the three
NW-Usually 8 of 9 spots are reserved for rotators, so rotate if you are really interested. Sports is great, trauma is a little light, and at times the upper level residents retract too much. Still a good program though. In the nicest part of chicago. Not much clinic, so the decision making ability of the residents may not be a strong point and they have sat conference, in addition to morning conference most days of the week.
Loyola-Great program, In my opinion, the best in chicago. Operate early, well-rounded, very supportive chair. I don't think they work any harder than many other programs, they do have a night float. No true foot/ankle rotation. they do have a full 6 month research rotation third or fourth year which is much more dedicated time than most other programs
UIC-Not as bad as their reputation might indicate. I believe they rotate at advocate lutheran. Tons (too much?) of clinic early. Saturday conference stinks. Really work at a lot of hospitals which may be good or bad. I didn't get the impression that there were many/any fellows here. Definately a blue collar program
All programs are competitive, but UIC is definitely the least competitive of the three
