Osteopathic OB-FP Superdoc Residency

[Boxer1]

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I want to do rural Family Practice, so I want to find an Osteopathic FP residency program with a strong emphasis in OB. The ACOFP website isn't much help in figuring out which programs really offer enough experience to be proficient at delivering babies. Anyone who knows a good resource to find such residencies, or have any individual programs to recommend, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks

 

[cooldreams]

search for "unopposed" fp residencies

 

[raptor5]

Are you willing to go anywhere in the country. From what has been said in the past most East Coast residencies do not prepare residents with enough quality OB. There are exceptions and those programs that offer OB fellowships. In the vacinity of Iowa how about U. of Wisc. programs I believe they have dual accreditation. Again I am just repeating what others have said.

 

[Boxer1]

Thanks for the replies so far. I'm from the mountain west, but I don't mind going where I need to go to get a good education. How many months of OB rotations should I be looking for in the curriculum of an FP program? 3-5 months seem to be the norm, but that's just from the programs that I've looked at. For anyone going through the process, is 4 months enough to manage uncomplicated deliveries? How much training would an FP resident need to be competent at c-sections?

 

[thanks]

So what's the story behind your handle?

 

[Boxer1]

I was a neuroscience major in undergrad, and had to take a graduate level neuroanatomy course. Kudos to those who do well and like that kind of thing, but it was almost the death of me. I survived to make it into med school, and now I express my livelong disguist for anatomy of the CNS via my SDN userid.

 

[PACtoDOC]

Look at the Casper, Wyoming program, and the Spartanburg, SC program. They are both AOA/ACGME programs.

 

[msparkysteffen]

I am one of the interns at Iowa Lutheran in Des Moines so I may be partially baised but we have an excellent OB curriculim. On top of our own personal OB patients we run a free clinic for pregnant hispanic women and see a lot of OB both routine and high risk. There is the opportunity to get trained to do c-sections and we do all of our own ultrasounds. OB here is done in 4 weeks blocks and you do a total of 2 months your 1st year and 2 months your 3rd year with ample elective time to do additional OB rotations. Anyway I love my program and wouldn't change a thing. Any q's you can PM me

 

[normalforce]

I want to do rural Family Practice, so I want to find an Osteopathic FP residency program with a strong emphasis in OB. The ACOFP website isn't much help in figuring out which programs really offer enough experience to be proficient at delivering babies. Anyone who knows a good resource to find such residencies, or have any individual programs to recommend, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks

The Fort Wayne Medical Education Program linked with Indiana University. www.fwmep.edu

Huge amount of OB, I think 6 months exclusive. It is unopposed, and you get 5 electives to do more OB if ya want. It is dually accredited and part of the PCSOM-OPTI.

Good Luck.

 

[Boxer1]

Thanks for all the replies. Keep them coming. It looks like dually accredited FP programs are the way to go if I want to keep my osteopathic affiliations, and get good OB experience. Can anyone comment on whether there's any OMM integrated into these residencies. Does the AOA require that OMM be taught for a residency program to become dually accredited? It seems kind of difficult to do that since the MD residents in the program wouldn't have any background in it.

 

[raptor5]

Thanks for all the replies. Keep them coming. It looks like dually accredited FP programs are the way to go if I want to keep my osteopathic affiliations, and get good OB experience. Can anyone comment on whether there's any OMM integrated into these residencies. Does the AOA require that OMM be taught for a residency program to become dually accredited? It seems kind of difficult to do that since the MD residents in the program wouldn't have any background in it.

I was wondering the same thing. It seems that some AOA/ACGME accredited programs have one DO on staff. Does that DO handle all your OMM needs or do you get farmed out to local OMM specialists and/or handle it through GME.

 

[Boxer1]

Are there any FP residents in dually accredited programs (ACGME/AOA) who can speak to the amount of OMM practice the DO's in your program get? I've got a shiney new nickel for anyone who takes the time to reply. 😀
Thanks

 

[PACtoDOC]

Are there any FP residents in dually accredited programs (ACGME/AOA) who can speak to the amount of OMM practice the DO's in your program get? I've got a shiney new nickel for anyone who takes the time to reply. 😀
Thanks

Guys, don't kid yourself, not even the majority of AOA FP programs do any manip. They basically just refresh on it before written exams and they have to pass ONE solitary practical at the end of their 3rd year to get boarded.

I just came home from the NE today and met with a newly dually accredited program and hung out with them for 48 hours. They take more seriously the OMM requirement than the average AOA program. They are expecting their DO residents to come in an use OMT proficiently and they have one DO on faculty that will be the supervisor for paperwork. They are starting a weekly OMM clinic staffed by the DO residents. So in actuality, don't apply dual unless you think you can do OMM at least somewhat. These programs are very excited about the OMM aspect of care and a DO with no manip skills to them will be a let-down!

 

[dry dre]

I'm an allopath not familiar with the osteo accrediation stuff. That being said...

I worked with an FP (MD, if it matters) who has done OB including c-sections and open tubals (plus vasectomies and some other minor stuff) since coming straight out of residency. He did residency in Tacoma, Washington; he went there for its reputation of being heavy on OB as he wanted to do this straight out of residency (without having to do an OB fellowship or experience training etc). Apparently, for those in FP/OB circles, Tacoma is known for this experience.

Having just googled their website, I see that there are DOs in the program.

Just thought I'd throw this out.

 

[ramonaquimby]

I'm an allopath not familiar with the osteo accrediation stuff...

drydre, jsut had to pop in and say that the photo you've got posted CRACKED ME UP! you're too much!

 

[larryj]

I want to do rural Family Practice, so I want to find an Osteopathic FP residency program with a strong emphasis in OB. The ACOFP website isn't much help in figuring out which programs really offer enough experience to be proficient at delivering babies. Anyone who knows a good resource to find such residencies, or have any individual programs to recommend, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks

http://www.psot.com/Documents/Oscars.doc

browse around the www.psot.com website for a while.

There is a requirement for a dually approved program to have OMM component, although how much actually gets done??????? I think the Wisconsin programs have ONE DO DME for the entire state of their FP programs.


Dually accredited AOA/ACGME programs are in all reality just an ACGME program, that has been given the blessing of the AOA. (I don't believe there are any native AOA programs that have become ACGME accredited... could be wrong). They give lip sercive to being AOA approved, but it is more on paper than anything.

If you want to REALLY learn about ACGME FP programs go the the AAFP National conference for students and residents in KC the end of July.... Although it is sad that the DO schools won't allow the AAFP to have a student chapter on your campus... fear the competition to the ACOFP.

Unless you have a STRONG desire to stay it the DO fold (ie. you MUST move back to Michigan), find the best TRAINING available - forget the AOA status.