Overlap between CBSE and NBDE.

[Franklo]

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Simple question. I'm taking both this summer. My plan is to focus close to 90% of my time on the CBSE and then do the rest on dental anatomy. Thoughts? To risky? Good idea?

Thanks!

 

[DentistScientist]

Very little overlap. Most CBSE material is far beyond the scope of what you learn in dental school. Unless you go to a program that you take classes with led students.


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So studying for CBSE may distract someone from preparing adequately for the NBDE?

Then how do Columbia, Stony Brook and Harvard students pass the NBDE when their curriculum is designed for CBSE or USMLE Step 1?

 

[ncide]

Most of my classmates interested in OMFS are taking both this summer too. We are taking the CBSE first then binge studying 2 weeks or so for the other test. Worked well for the the D1s that did it last year.

 

[Tooth Chucker]

Most of my classmates interested in OMFS are taking both this summer too. We are taking the CBSE first then binge studying 2 weeks or so for the other test. Worked well for the the D1s that did it last year.

You are telling me that a D1 can write the CBSE? Do you go to a school that has M1/M2 curriculum?

 

[DentistScientist]

You are telling me that a D1 can write the CBSE? Do you go to a school that has M1/M2 curriculum?

what? someone could write NBME's CBSE after just taking first year medical school courses with no pathology and pharmacology?

 

[David4592]

DO IT!!! I took the CBSE as a D1 along with the nbde. If you do bad you can always just take it again. Even if your not happy with your score at least you will know what to expect when you retake the CBSE.

 

[Likkriue]

So studying for CBSE may distract someone from preparing adequately for the NBDE?

Then how do Columbia, Stony Brook and Harvard students pass the NBDE when their curriculum is designed for CBSE or USMLE Step 1?

The NBDE is far easier. I think majority of people study around 2 weeks for this test. The CBSE is brutal and so schools like those you mentioned have curriculums to make it slightly more manageable.
Also it comes down to the student and how much work they want to put in.

 

[ncide]

what? someone could write NBME's CBSE after just taking first year medical school courses with no pathology and pharmacology?

We will have taken pathology by the test date, and it is definitely expected for us to take the exam several times. It's best to start studying for the exam early and taking it so that you know where your weaknesses are and what to prepare for in the future.

The current OMFS residents and upperclassmen told us that it's a good idea to take it then as well.

 

[DentistScientist]

So how difficult is CBSE compared to the USMLE Step 1? Anybody know? They cover the same material while dental students can take cbse several times while medical student failing step 1 once and then passing it second time is pretty much family med in wyoming.. second time fail is dismissal..


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[ncide]

So how difficult is CBSE compared to the USMLE Step 1? Anybody know? They cover the same material while dental students can take cbse several times while medical student failing step 1 once and then passing it second time is pretty much family med in wyoming.. second time fail is dismissal..


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They are equivalent. The same exact study material is used in preparation for both. It's why dental students can get MDs and attend a few years of medical school to supplement their education in 6 year OMFS programs.

Throw a dental education on top of preparing for the medical board exam and then you should understand why it's a reasonable middle ground.

 

[Carude]

They are equivalent. The same exact study material is used in preparation for both. It's why dental students can get MDs and attend a few years of medical school to supplement their education in 6 year OMFS programs.

Throw a dental education on top of preparing for the medical board exam and then you should understand why it's a reasonable middle ground.

As far as I am aware VCU does not have a program with medicine as its first two years (like Harvard), correct? In other words, you did a traditional D1 year, and that was enough for your upperclassmen to do the CBSE?

And when you said it worked out for them, does that mean people got a 70+ on their CBSE?

Thanks!

 

[Carude]

Also, not to hijack this thread, but how likely would it be that schools stop requiring NBME's CBSE 3 years from now, considering that some OMS programs are requiring the ADAT? Is it worthwhile going through hell and back for the CBSE, only to realize that I also need to do the ADAT?

 

[Likkriue]

Also, not to hijack this thread, but how likely would it be that schools stop requiring NBME's CBSE 3 years from now, considering that some OMS programs are requiring the ADAT? Is it worthwhile going through hell and back for the CBSE, only to realize that I also need to do the ADAT?

Would be a great question to ask Program Directors of those that require the ADAT. Truthfully all these extra exams make it a really confusing process. Who knows what shenanigans they cook up later. No way they would stop requiring the CBSE as that is the only gauge they have for seeing your capabilities of passing all the medical board exams in a 6-year program.

Ortho needs GRE scores for example (seriously why?).

 

[ncide]

As far as I am aware VCU does not have a program with medicine as its first two years (like Harvard), correct? In other words, you did a traditional D1 year, and that was enough for your upperclassmen to do the CBSE?

And when you said it worked out for them, does that mean people got a 70+ on their CBSE?

Thanks!

We have some of the same professors for pathology, microbiology, anatomy... but we are known for our clinical curriculum. We don't pump out as many OMFS residents like Columbia.

 

[Likkriue]

We have some of the same professors for pathology, microbiology, anatomy... but we are known for our clinical curriculum. We don't pump out as many OMFS residents like Columbia.

You guys pumped out more than 90% of dental schools!

 

[Franklo]

Currently I am signed up to take the NBDE on the 3rd of July and the CBSE on the 29th of July. We have a "NBDE prep course" for two weeks at my school which is where I was going to focus most of my NBDE studying. I am starting now my CBSE practice by reading through FA then I'll hit Uworld in the last month to month and a half.