A little background:
- Just finished in July 2025
- Straight through journey so far (residency --> fellowship)
- Restricted to a very specific area/city geographically
- Very competitive pain market
How do starting salaries for pain compare to general anesthesia right now?
For the area that I'm in, W2 anesthesia employed positions pay about $500k with stipends for cardiac and pediatric fellowships (about 75k). The anesthesia jobs down here do not negotiate at all. It's a take it or leave it kinda option. Vacation is about 10-12 weeks with a decent sign on bonus usually. Anesthesia jobs are primarily medical direction of 3-4 rooms.
Despite looking for a pain job in the specific region/city I needed to be in for over a year, I only got one pain interview in the area which led to the opportunity to possibly do prn work with the sole physician practice in the future (no talk of rates for that so who knows how this will pan out). I interviewed at 5 other pain practices all about 2 hours away from this region which offered about $450k for HOPD with wRVU at $60-65. The private practices were lower with base salaries at $275-350k usually promising very low collection rates (20-30%) after earning your base salary. The clincher for me with the private jobs was that none of them had a partnership track or ASC ownership opprotunities. Another trend that didn't sit well for me was all the private places I interviewed had no health insurance/crappy health insurance, poor options for retirement investing, and told me I couldn't take more than 3 weeks off in the year. I guess I kind of want more stable benefits in that regard. Private places laughed me off when I would ask to negiotiate things like non-competes, sign on bonus, and pay; again, very resistant to negiotiate in this region.
I would have been fine with the HOPD jobs but they were just too far away for my personal situation. The other problem I had was that PE owns a lot of anesthesia and pain in the area and I had no interest in working for PE for my first job.
What does the job market look like for pain in 2025? Are there plenty of good jobs, or is it tight?
This honestly depends on where you want to practice. In a very competitive HCOL/desirable city, you'll be lucky to get an interview and chances are if they are interviewing a fresh grad, it is probably because they can't fill the position with someone more experienced. If you want to go to a small town or low population area, you can find a job that will pay you well and treat you nice. I get people reaching out to me about small towns in the same state as me promising $500k for 2 years base salary plus wRVUs which I would gladly take if circumstances were different. The best jobs people in my fellowship class signed for were all in undesirable, low population areas (general trend of medicine jobs though).
I would figure out where you want to practice then call the local hospitals and ask if they would be hiring a pain doc about the time you are graduating fellowship. They might even get you signed and offer a stipend before/early fellowship. I wish I did that to get a better pulse of the practice environment here during residency. Another clincher for my region was that there are only two hospitals that hire pain doctors directly since there are so many private practices and PE pain docs and both hospitals are swamped with pain docs looking for jobs so usually hire internally from their pool of anesthesia docs.
What do salaries typically look like 5+ years into practice?
Obviously, I have not had an attending job for 5+ years, but from whom I've spoken to in my region, it seems that the W2 employed anesthesiologists hang around $550-$650k without moonlighting (call taking positions), W2 pain docs around $600-800k, and private practice I imagine is greater than $600k plus all the tax benefits of owning a business.
How does the lifestyle really compare to OR anesthesia?
Fellowship lifestlye was eons better than residency lifestyle. I imagine an attending life with predictable hours, calling the shots, deciding you want to cancel/see more patients a certain day, having people ask what you want in the OR for your cases, and choosing which patients to see and how to treat them is better than a call taking anesthesiologist life. But I think this is a personal choice. Some people take a pay cut and don't do call where I'm heading for anesthesia. Other people enjoy the call since they have the day off and can just show up in the evening as needed. I think this is more a personal preference.
If you had to choose between starting a pain career in 2025 vs. jumping straight into the current anesthesia market… what would you do?
I would still choose to start a pain career in 2025 in general since I enjoy the flow of office, doing procedures, and long term care of patients. However at this present moment, if I knew the pain practice environment was this bad in the city that I'm in currently, I likely would have done a cardiac fellowship since it would have been so much easier getting a job here and being able to just move here and stay without the financial consequences of a year of fellowship. There is a lot of uncertainity in whether or not I'll actually be able to practice pain and/or leave the region. I'm already plotting an escape plan and keeping my ears peeled for pain job openings in the area which kinda sucks to be honest after just moving to a brand new area with no roots and a job you're only half excited about. Thus, I encourage you to think long and hard about where you are going to practice when you finish fellowship and see if there are hospitals hiring pain docs in that region. As others have emphasized above, better bang for your buck starting out at a HOPD.