Percentages???

[freedyx3]

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This question is for anyone who knows.....at a certain dental school what percent of recent graduates get into post graduate specialty programs? If you know this data about any dental school please list the school name and percentage.


thanks a bunch

 

[ItsGavinC]

And in accordance with this question, it would probably be beneficial to know what percentage of students from that school actually apply to post-grad programs.

If 66% of the students at school X get accepted to post-grad programs, the stat is worthless if only 3 from that school applied. 66% doesn't sound so good if only 3 students applied to post-grad specialties.

The bottom line: stats are always misleading. Let me know what you want to hear, and I'll pull out some stats to buoy you up. 😎

 

[Yah-E]

In 1999, 12.99% (10 students) went into specialty programs (another 14.29% - or 11 students - went into GPR/AEGD programs). This number includes 2 into oral surgery and 5 into orthodontics.

In 2000, 8.86% of students went straight into specialty programs but I don't have the breakdown as to who went where. Another 18.98% entered GPR/AEGD programs.

And finally, in 2001, 8.75% went into specialty programs, including ortho (6 students). Also in this class, 2 additional people pursued some nontraditional specialties: TMJ and Forensic Dentistry. An additional 13.75% opted for GPR/AEGD programs.

These statistics came directly from Laura Boland, Director of Student Services at University of Minnesota School of Dentistry.

As soon as I get some specific stats about Nova's three graduating classes, I'll let you guys know.

 

[ItsGavinC]

Thanks for the stats, Andy. I'm especially interested in the GPR stats.

 

[FMLizard]

Should we interpret that a low number of students pursuing a GPR/AEGD means that they felt prepared for practice at the end of their four years or that they had strong success in finding employment? I have seen much higher GPR rates at other schools posted, mostly in New England.

Also, what percentage of U students and students nationwide got accepted to specialty programs? I see the total class % that got in, but how many applied?

Why would anyone want to do GPR anyway? You get paid a lot more to be an associate, and you still get to practice and improve your skills in either situation. What is the attraction to GPRs?

 

[Yah-E]

Graduating seniors apply to GPRs for many reasons:

1) further exposure to clinical dentistry whether to help increase confidence or simply want more action

2) a "stepping-stone" to specialties such as OMS because GPR is hospital dentistry (on-calls, trauma, etc.)

3) no luck getting an associateship or job prior to graduation

Univ. of Minnesota has done wonders in placing their graduates into specialties and job placements.

Here's the 2002 graduating class profile:

http://www.dentistry.umn.edu/prosstudent/Graduation_Plans692.html

 

[FMLizard]

Ye Gods!

What are those 28 who have "not yet located a position" doing? I also notice that none list "starting/buying a practice" as an objective. While I know this is pretty standard the first few years, I thought at least a few would be trying that out.

 

[freedyx3]

Well it would be nice to know both the percentage out of the total class and the percentage out of the total applicants into specialty programs.


thanks

 

[Jone]

Originally posted by FMLizard

Why would anyone want to do GPR anyway? You get paid a lot more to be an associate, and you still get to practice and improve your skills in either situation. What is the attraction to GPRs?

According to a few of my friends who now practice:
It is not easy to find a dentist who will teach you the ropes. Very often the dentist sees you as a way to get rid of his cheap procedures. Some will even go out of their way to prevent you from getting to do any expensive procedures if you work on a commision basis.

One of my close friends had to switch jobs 3 times before she found a dentist who actually was willing to mentor her.

 

[Jyaki]

Originally posted by Jone
According to a few of my friends who now practice:
It is not easy to find a dentist who will teach you the ropes. Very often the dentist sees you as a way to get rid of his cheap procedures. Some will even go out of their way to prevent you from getting to do any expensive procedures if you work on a commision basis.

One of my close friends had to switch jobs 3 times before she found a dentist who actually was willing to mentor her.

This is absolutely true. My friend that graduated 2 years ago experienced the same thing at a couple of clinics. So even though he received a certain percentage of his total production, it wasn't as much as it could have been. All of the expensive procedures were being snatched up by the practice owner.