Perfect CV for competitive peds program

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.

coffeesnob

Full Member
10+ Year Member
Joined
Aug 2, 2011
Messages
331
Reaction score
152
What would the perfect CV look like for competitive peds program (top 10) in terms of research (# of publications), class rank, clinical grades, board scores, ECs (volunteer/leadership) and # of away rotations?

Do you have to necessarily "gun" for competitive programs like people gunning for ortho/derm?

Thanks!

Members don't see this ad.
 
What would the perfect CV look like for competitive peds program (top 10) in terms of research (# of publications), class rank, clinical grades, board scores, ECs (volunteer/leadership) and # of away rotations?

Do you have to necessarily "gun" for competitive programs like people gunning for ortho/derm?

Thanks!

I don't think there is a "perfect CV" for peds. From my experience interviewing this past year there was such a varied group of people. I can only speak for my experience, but I am sure I had far from a perfect CV, but I got an interview almost everywhere I applied including many top programs so I wouldn't be too worried as long as you work hard you'll be fine.

I think your bigger concern is the fact that you are planning on gunning. Peds is not a community of gunners and those few gunners I knew who applied to peds didn't match at their top choices, and from what I have heard my guess is thats why. Also with talking to residents at my interviews none of them seemed like they were gunners in med school and those are not the type of people they like in the program.
 
I feel that this has been discussed and addressed ad nauseam. Specifically, check here....

I'm a senior faculty member at Boston Children's and I would say board scores are the least important aspect of the application for us because they don't correlate well with clinical ability or long term success. Our interns average about 255 but range from 201 to 288. Clerkship grades are very important. Most of our interns are in the top 10-15% of their class, particularly in the third year, but again there are significant variations. We interview and occasionally match people who are in the bottom half of their classes if they are amazing in other ways. We are very interested in personality, especially sense of humor, and in dimensions beyond grades: leadership, advocacy locally or internationally, research, or accomplishments in things like music, art, dance, athletics, creative writing and the like. We are also interested in applicants who have a passion and whose extracurricular activities correlate with that interest. In other words, applicants who want to do research should have a record of research, those who want to be advocates should have a record of advocacy, and so on. We certainly consider accomplishments prior to med school but we usually also expect extracurricular accomplishments during med school. But we recognize that some schools offer more time for such things and put more emphasis on them than other schools. Finally, letters are very important but particularly letters from experienced writers who know you well and write for many students (PDs, clerkship directors, senior clinical faculty, etc). And, of course, performance on an elective rotation in our program is extremely important if you do such a rotation.

Overall, I agree with the writers above who say that there is tremendous variation in the applicants we interview and match. It's the overall package rather than any one criterion that counts. We're looking for people who will have successful careers and be great colleagues, who will "fit" well in our program. I suspect that's true of everyone. So, if you're interested in a program I would just apply. Fortunately, there are a lot of good training programs in pediatrics. For most students it's not critical to be in any specific program, at least not for academic reasons. Hope that's helpful.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=901506

I'm not sure it specifically answers your question, but it's a good start. On the interview trail, I agree with the above poster that most of the applicants I met were genuinely nice people who had varied experiences and just wanted to work with children.
 
Last edited:
Members don't see this ad :)
I don't think there is a "perfect CV" for peds. From my experience interviewing this past year there was such a varied group of people. I can only speak for my experience, but I am sure I had far from a perfect CV, but I got an interview almost everywhere I applied including many top programs so I wouldn't be too worried as long as you work hard you'll be fine.

I think your bigger concern is the fact that you are planning on gunning. Peds is not a community of gunners and those few gunners I knew who applied to peds didn't match at their top choices, and from what I have heard my guess is thats why. Also with talking to residents at my interviews none of them seemed like they were gunners in med school and those are not the type of people they like in the program.

Thank you! Yeah I wasn't implying that I would try to succeed at the expense of others. What I was trying to ask was the level of work/determination needed to be competitive for top programs in comparison to "average medical students."

You make a good point about interview. Thanks!
 
I feel that this has been discussed and addressed ad nauseam. Specifically, check here....



http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=901506

I'm not sure it specifically answers your question, but it's a good start. On the interview trail, I agree with the above poster that most of the applicants I met were genuinely nice people who had varied experiences and just wanted to work with children.

Thank you! Sorry if this question is asked a lot. I just didn't know the right search words. Thank you for the link!
 
If you mean "perfect," then I would say have all honors, 280s on both boards, AOA and GHHS, 5 first author pubs in Pediatrics (one clinical trial, one meta analysis, one retrospective chart review, one case report, one opinion), a second degree (maybe even third!), student leadership positions, and a top 10 med school pedigree (to think to be AOA and GHHS at schools that don't have them!).

I am being facetious because as previous posters have said, there is no such thing as "perfect." Getting into residency isn't about perfection, it's about who you are as a future pediatrician. Obviously some of the above elements help, but hitting everything is not absolute. You'd be surprised actually that some applicants with a CV close to the one above don't land their top choice.
 
Top