Pharmacist couples, how do you go about doing childcare??

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To the couples who have variable schedules, how do you go about doing childcare? We just welcomed our first child this past Feb and we are both pharmacists working different hours on different days.
You might need to budget for a nanny or two. Childcare is a giant pain in the butt.
 
I am in the same boat. Luckily I work 7-3. So By 4 (latest) I am home. My daughter goes to preschool in the morning and then Nany picks her up and stays at my home till I get there. It costs us tons of money. (like house mortgage every month). It's really expensive.
 
1. Have a retired elder or unemployed family member care for the child.
2. Creche (Toddler) to Boarding School (surprisingly Boarding School is cheaper than spot daycare for solid ones as well as having fixed costs)
3. One parent sacrifices their career for regular hours (babysitting not offset by salary which is commonly the case. I think the BEP in most areas is $65/hour if childcare is $20/hour for infant care)
4. Use underpaid labor (au pair runs about $40k including live-in expenses with $300/week).

1 and 3 are common. 2 is becoming more common anecdotally among the attorneys and physicians. 4 is going away due to abuse issues and changes to the tax code ($200 and you pay household employee tax at the penalty rate).
 
We are lucky to have a good nanny but it's hard to find a good one. Daycare sucks. And yes it's expensive.
 
I work nights and we use daycare. That was evening isn’t an issue ever.
 
Ideally, grandparents, aunts, uncle
Ideally, grandparents, aunts, uncles.
From somebody who lives 1000 miles from their nearest relative, this is the one thing I miss most about living here. The “locals” often don’t realize How much of a lifesaver family is.
 
From somebody who lives 1000 miles from their nearest relative, this is the one thing I miss most about living here. The “locals” often don’t realize How much of a lifesaver family is.

Yup, it's definitely wise to stay with family after graduation if you have student loans.

Lower cost of living + home cooked meals by mom >>>>>>>>>> Privacy
 
Yup, it's definitely wise to stay with family after graduation if you have student loans.

Lower cost of living + home cooked meals by mom >>>>>>>>>> Privacy
I can tell you are from New York. Lol. My wife is as well and a lot of her friends lives at home after college . But where I come from you are out of the house at 18 or you are a loser. Just a different culture.
 
1. Daycare plus nanny.
2. One parent takes all the crappy shifts, i.e. weekends, in return for stable morning shifts during the week.
 
If we had kids I'd have to quit and work some weekend shifts here and there to stay current. Wow
 
1. Have a retired elder or unemployed family member care for the child.
2. Creche (Toddler) to Boarding School (surprisingly Boarding School is cheaper than spot daycare for solid ones as well as having fixed costs)
3. One parent sacrifices their career for regular hours (babysitting not offset by salary which is commonly the case. I think the BEP in most areas is $65/hour if childcare is $20/hour for infant care)
4. Use underpaid labor (au pair runs about $40k including live-in expenses with $300/week).

1 and 3 are common. 2 is becoming more common anecdotally among the attorneys and physicians. 4 is going away due to abuse issues and changes to the tax code ($200 and you pay household employee tax at the penalty rate).
Well I like the idea of having grandparents and/or retired relatives in the area help out if practical (they have more incentive to properly raise/bring up right); what we did in our household (6 kids) during the early years...

Later on, it was more of the Nuclear family lifestyle...oldest (driving age) would act as elder keeping younger siblings in line whilst learning how to take care of oneself. Once everyone gets to an age where he/she can drive a car, said child would learn/take on errands to learn the practice of "adulting" by performing mundane tasks like emissions testing, picking up Rxs, grocery shopping, post office runs, other adult stuff, etc. Less awkward not having any experience from "helicopter" parents when said child enters the real world (why many millennials seem to give us a bad rap when it comes to "common sense" stuff)

*Might seem like a "tough love"/survival of the fittest/Darwin-esque kind of approach, but I am grateful my parents brought all of us up this way; everyone of us is way more responsible and independent now as adults vs. peers (who are all over the place in terms of priorities and finances...many of these over parented/sheltered "youngins"/young "adults" lack common skills, sense, and lack strive & understanding for autonomy)
 
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Well I like the idea of having grandparents and/or retired relatives in the area help out if practical (they have more incentive to properly raise/bring up right); what we did in our household (6 kids) during the early years...

Later on, it was more of the Nuclear family lifestyle...oldest (driving age) would act as elder keeping younger siblings in line whilst learning how to take care of oneself. Once everyone gets to an age where he/she can drive a car, said child would learn/take on errands to learn the practice of "adulting" by performing mundane tasks like emissions testing, picking up Rxs, grocery shopping, post office runs, other adult stuff, etc. Less awkward not having any experience from "helicopter" parents when said child enters the real world (why many millennials seem to give us a bad rap when it comes to "common sense" stuff)

*Might seem like a "tough love"/survival of the fittest/Darwin-esque kind of approach, but I am grateful my parents brought all of us up this way; everyone of us is way more responsible and independent now as adults vs. peers (who are all over the place in terms of priorities and finances...many of these over parented/sheltered "youngins"/young "adults" lack common skills, sense, and lack strive & understanding for autonomy)

Unfortunately, in most cities, the way we were raised as latchkey would be considered child abuse (I am not kidding) these days. A couple of close friends had their 7 and 12 year old come home alone and CPS paid them an angry visit due to a neighbor observing them doing chores in the yard.


They got an au pair until they could be placed in boarding school in IA (which is the reason I know about the costs and taxation, it's a dinner discussion on the expense). It was actually cheaper to send them to boarding school.
 
Unfortunately, in most cities, the way we were raised as latchkey would be considered child abuse (I am not kidding) these days. A couple of close friends had their 7 and 12 year old come home alone and CPS paid them an angry visit due to a neighbor observing them doing chores in the yard.


They got an au pair until they could be placed in boarding school in IA (which is the reason I know about the costs and taxation, it's a dinner discussion on the expense). It was actually cheaper to send them to boarding school.
Oh, I totally agree...

Yeah, had a few bouts of CPS just because there were 8 of us total...you tell me what household with 6 young children isn't going to make any noise? Nosy do-nothing neighbors/trophy wifes a plenty as next door neighbors (ironically with their own wild children who were perfect angels of course....so much sarcasm it isn't even funny...only difference would be said parents only had 1-2 wild children/household)

# of children can definitely matter on how one approaches parenting; definitely needs to be a balance between care and teaching someone to be self sufficient (one day)
 
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Oh, I totally agree...

Yeah, had a few bouts of CPS just because there were 8 of us total...you tell me what household with 6 young children isn't going to make any noise? Nosy do-nothing neighbors/trophy wifes a plenty as next door neighbors (ironically with their own wild children who were perfect angels of course....so much sarcasm it isn't even funny...only difference would be said parents only had 1-2 wild children/household)

# of children can definitely matter on how one approaches parenting; definitely needs to be a balance between care and teaching someone to be self sufficient (one day)
I have many children and have never had CPS called. None of my children have cellphones and we do not have a home phone. I could never imagine a nearby resident calling CPS on us though. I mean, if you have a half decent relationship with members of your community no one is getting CPS / Police called on them.

People like to stay in their own lane.

On a farm nearby us I hear fully automatic gunshots all the time. The owner of the farm is a felon. Am I going to call police to investigate a possible felon in possession of a firearm? No. He's a nice guy that turned his life around plus the gunshots put downward pressure on the home values in our area, keeping my property tax low. Additionally it is not my job or within my scope of responsibility to enforce federal laws. That is the FBI's job.

Now if you have a ex-wife /ex-husband / ex-gf / ex-bf that hates you yeah they are probably going to try to weaponize CPS or the police against you.

A couple of close friends had their 7 and 12 year old come home alone and CPS paid them an angry visit due to a neighbor observing them doing chores in the yard.
This is insane. Are 12 year olds not allowed to do chores?!

Grand parents are lifesaver!
Ideally, grandparents, aunts, uncles.
How is everyone's grandparents still alive?! My mother had me when she was 42 and all my grandparents were dead by the time I was 23 years old. Assuming most of the parents on here are in their mid 30s how could your GRANDparents still be alive?! Your mothers must have had you very young.
 
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How is everyone's grandparents still alive?!
My maternal grandparents are <75 and healthy. They had my mom in their early mid 20s who had me in her early to mid 20s. No plans on having kids myself but they'd be willing and perfectly able to help with child care for the immediate future.
 
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I have many children and have never had CPS called. None of my children have cellphones and we do not have a home phone. I could never imagine a nearby resident calling CPS on us though. I mean, if you have a half decent relationship with members of your community no one is getting CPS / Police called on them.

People like to stay in their own lane.

On a farm nearby us I hear fully automatic gunshots all the time. The owner of the farm is a felon. Am I going to call police to investigate a possible felon in possession of a firearm? No. He's a nice guy that turned his life around plus the gunshots put downward pressure on the home values in our area, keeping my property tax low. Additionally it is not my job or within my scope of responsibility to enforce federal laws. That is the FBI's job.

Now if you have a ex-wife /ex-husband / ex-gf / ex-bf that hates you yeah they are probably going to try to weaponize CPS or the police against you.


This is insane. Are 12 year olds not allowed to do chores?!



How is everyone's grandparents still alive?! My mother had me when she was 42 and all my grandparents were dead by the time I was 23 years old. Assuming most of the parents on here are in their mid 30s how could your GRANDparents still be alive?! Your mothers must have had you very young.

I’m nearing 40 (omg.) and all 4 of my grandparents are still alive. I was in pharmacy school when my last great grandmother died.

I really need to turn my life around if I don’t want to live well into my 90s.
 
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I have many children and have never had CPS called. None of my children have cellphones and we do not have a home phone. I could never imagine a nearby resident calling CPS on us though. I mean, if you have a half decent relationship with members of your community no one is getting CPS / Police called on them.

People like to stay in their own lane.

On a farm nearby us I hear fully automatic gunshots all the time. The owner of the farm is a felon. Am I going to call police to investigate a possible felon in possession of a firearm? No. He's a nice guy that turned his life around plus the gunshots put downward pressure on the home values in our area, keeping my property tax low. Additionally it is not my job or within my scope of responsibility to enforce federal laws. That is the FBI's job.

Now if you have a ex-wife /ex-husband / ex-gf / ex-bf that hates you yeah they are probably going to try to weaponize CPS or the police against you.


This is insane. Are 12 year olds not allowed to do chores?!



How is everyone's grandparents still alive?! My mother had me when she was 42 and all my grandparents were dead by the time I was 23 years old. Assuming most of the parents on here are in their mid 30s how could your GRANDparents still be alive?! Your mothers must have had you very young.

My mom was 24 when she had me, my grandma was 22 when she had my mom, I'm in my 30s.

42 is usually considered very late to have a kid.
 
Hey. I was 42! But ya. I am old to have a toddler.
 
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