Pharmacy manpower report...seriously?

[BMBiology]

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Where does this study get its data? The analysis is so out of touch with reality.

 

[BMBiology]

So this study was used to justify the uncontrolled growth of pharmacy school. According to its map, the demand for pharmacists in California (3.67) is greater than most states, even greater than Texas (3.63)? Seriously?

http://www.pharmacymanpower.com/usstatemap.jsp

Apparently, there's a still a demand for pharmacists in California. Twelve years ago, there were just USC, UCSF, UOP, and Western. Today, there are also Touro, UCSD, Loma Linda, Northstate. Apparently, that's not enough because three more pharmacy schools are planning to open in California. Ever heard of West Coast University? Yup, their inaugural class starts this coming August. Let the good times roll.

Also, check out the three year national trend data. Apparently, the demand for pharmacist hasn't changed one bit!

http://www.pharmacymanpower.com/trends.jsp

 

[ZeroLemon]

Is it too late to switch to nursing?

 

[BMBiology]

Does anyone know who's funding the pharmacy manpower project? It's not on their website and I can't seem to find this information.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Does anyone know who's funding the pharmacy manpower project? It's not on their website and I can't seem to find this information.

Here.

 

[BMBiology]

I know the author but who is funding the study?

 

[WVUPharm2007]

I know the author but who is funding the study?

Well, as you can see the world of academia is involved. That's all I need to see. They operate in an entirely different universe separate from everyone else's reality.

But, hey, what am I thinking? They wouldn't be biased about jobs numbers, would they? Surely that couldn't benefit them. 🙄

Slightly more info is here, too.

This is included:

The U.S. pharmacy profession could face a worsening shortage of pharmacists in the next decade as more pharmacists prepare to retire and more opt for part-time work. The Pharmacy Workforce Center (PWC), formerly known as the Pharmacy Manpower Project, Inc., is a nonprofit corporation whose mission is to serve the public and the pharmacy profession by developing data regarding the size and demography of the pharmacy workforce and conducting and supporting research in related areas.

The PWC is comprised of Academy of Managed Care Pharmacy, American Association of Colleges of Pharmacy, American College of Apothecaries, American College of Clinical Pharmacy, American Pharmacists Association, American Society of Consultant Pharmacists, American Society of Health-System Pharmacists, Bureau of Health Professions, National Alliance of State Pharmacy Associations, National Association of Boards of Pharmacy, National Association of Chain Drug Stores Foundation, National Community Pharmacists Association, Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America and Pharmacy Technician Certification Board.

I laughed.

But they put their mission out there. We are the AACP, and this study is to show how bad the shortage is. But I get what you are saying...its a nonproft corporation. Where is the money coming from? And the answer is...who knows.

 

[y0ssarian87]

Well, as you can see the world of academia is involved. That's all I need to see. They operate in an entirely different universe separate from everyone else's reality.

But, hey, what am I thinking? They wouldn't be biased about jobs numbers, would they? Surely that couldn't benefit them. 🙄

Slightly more info is here, too.

This is included:



I laughed.

But they put their mission out there. We are the AACP, and this study is to show how bad the shortage is. But I get what you are saying...its a nonproft corporation. Where is the money coming from? And the answer is...who knows.

If you do a WHOIS search, it seems like the servers are hosted by Western University, but there is a contact name Katherine Knapp, who seems to be a Dean and Professor at Touro. Not sure if this helps.

 

[radio frequency]

If you do a WHOIS search, it seems like the servers are hosted by Western University, but there is a contact name Katherine Knapp, who seems to be a Dean and Professor at Touro. Not sure if this helps.

That seems like it may explain quite a bit!

 

[confettiflyer]

pharmacy manpower = lagging indicator has been beaten to death on this forum.

 

[BMBiology]

pharmacy manpower = lagging indicator has been beaten to death on this forum.

How can it be a lagging indicator when it is updated every month?

 

[Ackj]

How can it be a lagging indicator when it is updated every month?

Your paycheck lags, but you still get one every 2 weeks. It can be updated with newer data, but the updates are still lagging behind present data. No idea what degree of lag there is, but for the sake of example, lets say we're looking at 2010 data today. Our current 2013 stats would be published then in 2016.

 

[297point1]

Ever heard of West Coast University? Yup, their inaugural class starts this coming August. Let the good times roll.

I wouldn't be so sure of that...seems they've been delayed a year:
http://pharmacy.westcoastuniversity.edu/admissions/admissions-information.html

"The West Coast University Pharmacy Program was approved by WASC in January 2013. Pending ACPE approval. In order to open in 2014, West Coast University School of Pharmacy must receive precandidate accreditation status approval from ACPE, and receive approval to award financial aid for the doctoral degree program from the U.S. Department of Education. See the Accreditation Page and FAQs for complete information"

 

[BMBiology]

Your paycheck lags, but you still get one every 2 weeks. It can be updated with newer data, but the updates are still lagging behind present data. No idea what degree of lag there is, but for the sake of example, lets say we're looking at 2010 data today. Our current 2013 stats would be published then in 2016.

I really doubt the lag time is 3 years. It seems like the data is collected monthly and is published monthly.

I don't know why this study is not more transparent. There is nothing about the methodology or who is funding this study on its website. You need to be invited to be a part of the panel and to take the survey so it is not a randomized survey.

Unfortunately this study has been cited numerous times and has been used to justify the need for new pharmacy schools. We all know it doesn't reflect
the current job market.