Pharmacy school with the least prerequisites?

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Hi,

I am a current undergraduate student. I am getting a degree in Business Administration. Recently, I have considered pharmacy school instead of pursuing a business career. I will finish my business degree but during the summer I would like to take science classes and pharmacy school prerequisites.

My question is simple: what pharmacy schools requires the least number of science classes or only a few required science-related classes?

I fulfill the humanities and social science classes with my business degree (philosophy, social science, economics, ethics, business calculus, business communications)... I am only concerned about the science classes (biology, chemistry, organic chemistry, biochem, physics).... I found a university that only required 8 semester hours of biology, 8 of chemistry and only 4 of organic chemistry, but now I don't remember the name of it.

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LECOM sounds good. Pittsburgh doesnt work because the schools in my state have a quarter system, they specifically say 8 semester hours or 1 year of required coursework. I am planning to take the classes at a college that has intensive quarter classes (6 credits per quarter, meaning I would only need two biology classes, 2 of chem and 2 of org. chem. For a total of 12 quarter credits per subject equivalent to 8 semester hours). Some universities dont really care if you only take two classes as long as you have 8 semester hours of equivalent work
 
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rant: This is part of problem with pharmacy school. They need to up admission standards.
 
rant: This is part of problem with pharmacy school. They need to up admission standards.

Not sure if a rant is necessary. I do not think that the op will find the pharmacy school that he is looking for. Sorry to say op, but you will need to buckle your seatbelt and get ready for at least 5 semesters of very hard science courses. I believe that business calculus might qualify for some schools, but not most..

Typically you will need 4 semesters of biology (general bio, and anat/phys), 5 semesters of chemistry (general chem, organic chem, and the labs, biochemistry), physics, and microbiology.

Some schools do not require microbiology, and biochemistry.... But, all the others mentioned are pretty standard.

It is not an easy task.
 
rant: This is part of problem with pharmacy school. They need to up admission standards.

Agreed! By performing the fewest possible pre-requisites, you're setting yourself up to have to work even harder than your colleagues who took more courses in undergrad. Taking the easiest possible route to a point will likely require more effort once you reach said destination.

It surprises me how few people think about what their preparation pre-pharmacy school will impact their success in the program. I know that there isn't necessarily a direct correlation, but I would imagine that the more stringent coursework one has taken prior to pharmacy school (with respect to the material covered, i.e. Biochemistry, Organic 1 & 2, Medicinal Chemistry, etc.), the more prepared and successful that said student will be in Pharmacy school.

I hazard to imagine that someone who has taken the bare minimum will excel in the program. Furthermore, given that it MAY be more difficult to find a job upon graduation, your GPA could play a larger factor in the ability to find a job, pursue a residency, etc. Therefore, I wouldn't want to take the easiest possible route to get into a program, accumulate a rather substantial debt and find that my opportunities are minimal because I wasn't prepared for the rigors of Pharmacy school due to my choice to take the fewest pre-requisites possible prior to starting the program.

Food for thought ...
 
To chemguy79,

My GPA is 3.79 as of today. I am in the business school getting two majors that take a total of 5 years to complete. Pharmacy schools also ask for a liberal arts or social science education (which corresponds to a second year of education for the ones who do not have a bachelors degree). I would say that the ones who take the easy route are the ones who complete their pre-requirements at the community college. The education is poor and does not have a goal (eg, my university offers a liberal arts education combined with religious studies for personal and spiritual formation).

Now, take into consideration that after fiver years of undergraduate I need two more years to complete my prerequisites, plus four years of pharmacy school--Are we on the same page now? Usually, pharmacists have bad writing skills, and this is in part because they complete their general/basic education in a community college.

Adding to the previous arguments, my school costs $35,000 a year (as of 2012), now multiply that by 7 (total years in school including pharmacy pre-requirements), and I am not including inflation or school yearly tuition increase. This is the cost of a world-class education.

The classes pharmacy schools require (biology, chemistry, biochemistry) are general classes in that specific subject. They are basic classes to give one an understanding of the sciences. The real classes come in pharmacy school, where they are pharmacy-related and relevant for the professional world.

You named GPA as trying to infer that because I would like to take the minimum pre-requisites I must have a low GPA. That is a baseless judgement.

Persuasive enough?

let me know what you think.
 
To chemguy79,

My GPA is 3.79 as of today. I am in the business school getting two majors that take a total of 5 years to complete. Pharmacy schools also ask for a liberal arts or social science education (which corresponds to a second year of education for the ones who do not have a bachelors degree). I would say that the ones who take the easy route are the ones who complete their pre-requirements at the community college. The education is poor and does not have a goal (eg, my university offers a liberal arts education combined with religious studies for personal and spiritual formation).

Now, take into consideration that after fiver years of undergraduate I need two more years to complete my prerequisites, plus four years of pharmacy school--Are we on the same page now? Usually, pharmacists have bad writing skills, and this is in part because they complete their general/basic education in a community college.

Adding to the previous arguments, my school costs $35,000 a year (as of 2012), now multiply that by 7 (total years in school including pharmacy pre-requirements), and I am not including inflation or school yearly tuition increase. This is the cost of a world-class education.

The classes pharmacy schools require (biology, chemistry, biochemistry) are general classes in that specific subject. They are basic classes to give one an understanding of the sciences. The real classes come in pharmacy school, where they are pharmacy-related and relevant for the professional world.

You named GPA as trying to infer that because I would like to take the minimum pre-requisites I must have a low GPA. That is a baseless judgement.

Persuasive enough?

let me know what you think.

No, it isn't.

Note: I mention Pharmacy school GPA in my previous post. Given the increased supply of pharmacy school students, I believe that pharmacy GPA will play a larger role in the application process. I'll come back to this point eventually.

I mention nothing about undergraduate GPA which is what started your post; I doubt that prospective pharmacist employers will care much about your undergraduate GPA. Pharmacy schools will give it credence, but if you take fewer pre-requisites than other applicants, they will have less information from which to base your potential for success in the program.

For the record: I did not imply nor did I state that you are interested in taking fewer pre-requisites as a way to enhance your GPA. That argument is baseless.

As for "writing skills," I feel that these are important to the application process. However, you seem to base quite a bit on the importance of these skills. I think that verbal communication trumps one's writing skills when it comes to patient contact. I also think that you are rather myopic to state that pharmacists have poor writing skills and said comment is in poor taste on your part.

The second paragraph that I bolded contains flawed logic. Pharmacy schools are expecting you to come in with a solid skill set in the sciences. In addition, I contend that the more classes in the sciences that one takes prior to attending the program, the stronger their background will be for the program.

Furthermore, if you read the threads for pharmacy school students, you will see that your comments about the practicality of the material in the program varies wildly. There are numerous P3's on the board who have made comments about how the material is not practical to their ability to practice as a pharmacist. Furthermore, the content covered in Pharmacy school assumes a fair bit of prior knowledge ... Prior knowledge that you will NOT have taking the bare minimum pre-requisites.

Personally, I would cringe at students taking medicinal chemistry after having had only 1 semester of Organic Chemistry. The class discusses reaction mechanisms, functional groups, acidity and basicity ... Concepts that you will not be familiar with to the extent that I'd feel comfortable with. Furthermore, if you believe that the material changes from undergraduate to pharmacy school, you are sadly mistaken. Having seen the material previously will likely improve your retention and understanding of the material.

This understanding will contribute to having a stronger GPA in Pharmacy school. Given the increasing competitiveness of the industry, I don't know why you would want to be short-sighted about starting the program sooner rather than later when it could jeopardize your performance in the program. For myself, I would want to go to the best possible school instead of attending a school with the fewest pre-requisites ... Especially if you're a student who is attending a school that costs 35K/year at a school that offers a "world-class education."

Food for thought ...
 
My GPA is 3.79 as of today. I would say that the ones who take the easy route are the ones who complete their pre-requirements at the community college. The education is poor and does not have a goal (eg, my university offers a liberal arts education combined with religious studies for personal and spiritual formation).

Usually, pharmacists have bad writing skills, and this is in part because they complete their general/basic education in a community college.

Adding to the previous arguments, my school costs $35,000 a year (as of 2012), now multiply that by 7 (total years in school including pharmacy pre-requirements), and I am not including inflation or school yearly tuition increase. This is the cost of a world-class education.

The classes pharmacy schools require (biology, chemistry, biochemistry) are general classes in that specific subject[/B]. They are basic classes to give one an understanding of the sciences. The real classes come in pharmacy school, where they are pharmacy-related and relevant for the professional world.

You named GPA as trying to infer that because I would like to take the minimum pre-requisites I must have a low GPA. That is a baseless judgement.

Persuasive enough?

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Although I took your words out of context, I still believe that the cuts that I took are pretty relevant to your overall attitude. It seems to me like you are super impressed with yourself, and your skills, and you think that you can just jump right in start compounding. The requisite courses are there for a reason. The same as with graduate level business course requisites are there for a reason. I am a senior level chemistry major right now, and I would not expect to qualify for graduate business courses. This works both ways.

Sorry, but I completely disagree with your notion that these classes are "basic". Sounds like you are in a cutting edge, world class, school. I bet that they offer a very rigorous class in organic chemistry. Take a couple semesters of organic chemistry, and the labs, and lets talk again about how basic they are. Rarely, I have meet people that are naturals at this subject. The other 99% of us have to work our butts off to get an A.

Without getting into the technical details, or personal opinions, it looks to me like you choose to be a business major and you are now changing your mind. Unfortunately, the world is pretty unforgiving for those of us who change our minds "later in life". I worked as a retail manager for 10 years before deciding to go back to school and pursue pharmacy. Should I have contacted the pharmacy schools and said, "Hey, I have 10 years of management experience, and the requisite classes are pretty basic... Can I just jump right into your program?" It does not work that way.. I had to start at the bottom again.

I appologize for being so blunt, but there is something about this thread that is annoying me. I wish you luck! And, let me make a suggestion. Starting at chemistry 101 is very helpful before you start your 4/5 semesters of chemistry. That helped me a lot. 🙂
 
Usually, pharmacists have bad writing skills, and this is in part because they complete their general/basic education in a community college.

Good community colleges that have partnerships with 4-year colleges hire professors that were originally that of Universities. You cannot pass judgement onto an entire class of schools based on non-official evaluations of a sample of such.

I come from a community college and I am offended sir.

PS: not a 4.0 GPA brah? trololol
 
Geesh ... I feel like a wuss for going so soft on the guy when you guys are breaking out the flame throwers. My break from SDN turned me into a softy. 😡
 
Geesh ... I feel like a wuss for going so soft on the guy when you guys are breaking out the flame throwers. My break from SDN turned me into a softy. 😡

Nonsense, you gave him great advice. Keep being a softy, it looks good on you. 😀😉
 
Nonsense, you gave him great advice. Keep being a softy, it looks good on you. 😀😉

I am just checking what university offers the fewest prerequisites. I do not see anything wrong with that. As for why I chose business. I love business, in fact, I would like to work in pharmacoeconomics rather than being dispensing pharmacist. I would do a PharmD/JD or PharmD/MBA combined program.

I never said that the classes were easy. When I said basic, I was referring to a basic understanding of the subject. The intention of this post is to ask a question, not to create an argument. We all choose different paths.

Pojman and chemguy79, I am sure you both work hard to get good grades and hopefully get into pharmacy school. I wish you both luck.
 
I am just checking what university offers the fewest prerequisites. I do not see anything wrong with that. As for why I chose business. I love business, in fact, I would like to work in pharmacoeconomics rather than being dispensing pharmacist. I would do a PharmD/JD or PharmD/MBA combined program.

Having skimmed the rest of the thread, I apologise if this has already been addressed. Rather than looking for the fewest number of pharmacy prereqs, why don't you look for dual programs? You'd be saving time on the second degree even if you have to take a few extra classes on the front end.
 
Having skimmed the rest of the thread, I apologise if this has already been addressed. Rather than looking for the fewest number of pharmacy prereqs, why don't you look for dual programs? You'd be saving time on the second degree even if you have to take a few extra classes on the front end.

Ding, Ding, Ding.

If the OP had mentioned this previously, he could have been directed to such programs.
 
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