Please give advice on histo

[jellygreen2001]

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hi everyone, we just started histo this week and I suck. I am not joking, i seriously can't tell the differences between cells-like plasma, mast etc. When the profs points out stuff, i never see it-like purple granules etc. The cells are just way too small for me and I can't tell the difference. What can I do cause i really don't want to fail the lab or the lecture.

Please help,

thnx

 

[boilerbeast]

get the CD called HistoTime from the university of Minnesota. The images are awesome and labeled and organized by organ systsem, and there's even a little quiz feature.

Saved my life, totally worth the $70.
I'll try to find the link for you...

 

[boilerbeast]

found it.

http://www.histologytime.com/496176.htm

 

[vincvega]

we just had our first histo test last week and it didn't go as bad as everyone expected. look at as many slides as you can from as many different sources as you can find and eventually things will start to look familiar.

 

[xlithiumx]

get the CD called HistoTime from the university of Minnesota. The images are awesome and labeled and organized by organ systsem, and there's even a little quiz feature.

Saved my life, totally worth the $70.
I'll try to find the link for you...

Great advice. I go to the University of Minnesota-Duluth, and my professor is the person who developed HistoTime. It is definitely worth the $70. It is the only thing that got me through that class with honors.

The good thing about histo is that if you spend more time looking at slides, you're guaranteed to get better at it. So, I'd just ramp up the study time/slide reading time and you'll catch on quickly.

Good luck!!

 

[bubbleyum]

is this good for people who are non uminn students?

and i just checked the site online, it has 3 identical looking cds for sale, all priced out differentlt from $75 to $55??

 

[xlithiumx]

If you had looked a little closer you would see that there are different prices for bulk orders. So, if you order 1-10 copies, they're $75 each; for 11-50 copies, they're $65 each; for 51+ copies, they're $55 each. Are you able to understand that? I found it out by reading.

Yes it is good for people who are not university of minnesota students. Histology is universal. It's not as though normal tissues are going to be dramatically different in different texts. From my experience, I'd say it's worth the $75 as it has a quiz feature built in, and tons of information about each different type of tissue.

 

[Touchdown]

The key is to find the things that are a dead givaway to what type of cell it is, for instance:

Plasma Cells-Wagon Wheel Nucli, located to one side of an oval cell
Mast Cells-Only cell I can think of that the nucli is the lightest part (and you usually cant see it) its a mass of tightly packed granules

Also check out the tissue its in, you find lukocytes in reticular tissue and blood thats usually about it (except macrophages which are everywhere.)

 

[bubbleyum]

If you had looked a little closer you would see that there are different prices for bulk orders. So, if you order 1-10 copies, they're $75 each; for 11-50 copies, they're $65 each; for 51+ copies, they're $55 each. Are you able to understand that? I found it out by reading.

well, well, aren't you the nicest guy.

 

[evade]

With histo, none of it makes sense at first. I clearly remember putting my first slide under my scope on the first day, and I completely could not distinguish plasma cells from anything else. I was sooo discouraged. The only thing I can recommend is spending lots and lots of time with your microscope, and when you think you understand it, double-check with someone else. My classmates and I used to quiz each other, and it helped a lot.

Also, to help quiz yourself when you think you kinda get it, give the Histo Quiz-O-Rama a whirl! http://www.grogo.org/histoquiz/

Best of luck to you!

 

[lattimer13]

i second histotime...i just skipped lab and went through that CD over and over and did well in the course. instead of forking out $70, just email your class listserve or the one for the years ahead of you and see if anyone is willing to burn you a copy.

 

[AmericanIMG]

di fiore's atlas of histology is also excellent. it will all be reinforced during pathology.

 

[tupac_don]

get the CD called HistoTime from the university of Minnesota. The images are awesome and labeled and organized by organ systsem, and there's even a little quiz feature.

Saved my life, totally worth the $70.
I'll try to find the link for you...

No it's not, don't pay the 70 bucks. There is plenty of resources out there, but try to stick to resources that are reccommended at your school, b/c chances are they will test out of those resources. There are clear differences b/w cells, try to focus on the differences, and somehow remember them, keep trying till you get it. Ask someone who knows the differences to show you how they remember it.

 

[Ashers]

I found this site really helpful last year:

http://www.bu.edu/histology/m/i_main00.htm

 

[bjackrian]

One caveat to histotime: with their quiz mode, you know what system you're looking at. I definitely missed a couple questions last year because I wasn't certain whether I was looking at pancreas or liver or spleen because I was so used to studying within a system rather than between systems.

 

[PuGanDoo]

This was my post on the Step 1 forum. These are sites with labels or tutorials- free. There are many more of these sites and others have probably posted some excellent links. Try doing an SDN search for histology resources. With some patience, imagination, and good tutorials you can improve!

Here are a handful, enjoy:

www.med.uiuc.edu/histo/small/atlas/index.htm

www.lab.anhb.uwa.edu.au/mb140/notes.htm

www.bu.edu/histology/m/i_main00.htm

homepage.mac.com/mesaanatomy/Menu4.html

http://www.meddean.luc.edu/lumen/Med...to_frames.html

-P.

 

[Flopotomist]

Talk with people in the class above you. They will have keen insight on what books or materials will help you since they took the same prof last year. I would suggest trying a number of different sources until you find one that you like. I personally HATE the Wheater book, but everybody else swears by it. I do like the Junquera book though. *shrug*. There are also lots of internet resources for you to try looking at. Good luck!

 

[njbmd]

The Wheater Atlas is good for histo. There is a Wheater Atlas of Histology and Histopathology that is excellent.

If your school has a dual head scope or a projection scope, take advantage of this. I can't tell you how much teaching I did in histo and pathology with this scope. I just seem to have an eye for this stuff and I spent many hours helping my fellow classmates. Grab someone who has some experience or grab one of the professors and keep looking at slides until you start to see things.

 

[md mayhem]

i had some histo as an undergrad and would draw out all the structures, that might take a lot of time, but it helped give me an idea of the important distinguishing characteristics of each cell type.

other advice: look for clues and landmarks that will tell you what organ you are in. that helps narrow it down a lot most of the time.

 

[Ultra7]

Many med schools offer free tutoring. The med schol pays upperclassman or MD/PhDs in lab to tutor at no cost to you. This is really useful for something like histo, which is pretty tough to figure out on your own. The tutor can point out cellular features to you and give you tricks to figure out what's what. I would ask your histo professor about this option.

 

[mediconline]

perhaps you could drop in http://www.mediconline.co.nr and browse up to the histology page and see if those resources could help you ! histo is kinda boring but well..there's no exception ! cheer up mate !

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[MarzMD]

My medical school bought a subscription to an online resource called "Hisotcast". I dont know what I would do without it.