Prelim/transitional

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Not to restart the prelim medicine vs transitional debate, but I'm having trouble ranking some NY programs. Don't want to have the hardest year, but also don't want to waste a year and not learn anything. If anyone knows anything about these programs it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

1. Flushing TY
2. Sound Shore TY
3. Mt. Sinai prelim medicine
4. NY downtown prelim medicine
5. Beth Israel Prelim medicine
6. Winthrop Prelim medicine
7. North Shore Prelim Medicine

 

[mstudent12345]

I interviewed at a bunch of these so I'll give my thoughts

1. Call it TY but it is mostly surgery. still spend 6mo Q4 overnight, though you basically do nothing every day. You will atrophy here
2. The CUSHEST prelim ever. The medicine months (all but 2) you have 2 wks of night float and 1 night/month of overnight. Why so cush, you dont do admissions the PGY2s and 3s do and hand them off to you. Also you cap at 10 and usually 5 of them are privates where you do nothing. Needless to say you learn nothing but it is chill.
3. One of the busier programs in the city. Something like 7 or 8 of the months on the wards and there you do WORK. busy services with sick patients. You learn alot but definately work for it. The residents are happy though. Also the PD is good about working with your gas program to give you what you need. One plus your "units" are a VA CCU that is supposed to be chill
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7. A decent balance between learning and working. You'll learn some though not work too hard. Minuses are you are in LI not NYC. Also they are "merging" with LIJ and the PD there said he won't give you a month of ER or two months of units because"your gas program only wants to use it to keep you in the OR and make money off of you". Didn't hear the same from North Shore but I'd check it out.

Not to restart the prelim medicine vs transitional debate, but I'm having trouble ranking some NY programs. Don't want to have the hardest year, but also don't want to waste a year and not learn anything. If anyone knows anything about these programs it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

1. Flushing TY
2. Sound Shore TY
3. Mt. Sinai prelim medicine
4. NY downtown prelim medicine
5. Beth Israel Prelim medicine
6. Winthrop Prelim medicine
7. North Shore Prelim Medicine

 

[bigdan]

Winthrop is one of the teaching sites for my medical school, Stony Brook. I never did a rotation there, but interviewed there for a prelim because everyone in my class that rotated there loved it. Reportedly:
- you work from 7 am to 4 pm everyday, with manageable caps.
- great faculty teachers for lectures, and a very benign rounding system (apparently the senior residents do most of the decision making/teaching during rounds)
- decent housing for virtually nothing, while living in a reasonable location on the Island (if there is such a thing)
- I think some of your meals are free

I'm ranking them 2nd or 3rd on my supplemental list; they apparently like Stony Brookers that they've seen before, so I don't know if I have a shot...especially with the 16 (!!!) people in my class applying in rads, the 3 in ophtho, and the 7 in derm...

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[jdovez]

I agree with what was said by the above posters, pretty spot on. I have spoken to someone that did a year at winthrop and she really tried to convince me to rank it 1. Said she learned some and it was really benign. Also the housing prices are ridiculously low and it really is 1 block from the train that takes 30 min to get into the heart of the city. Really can't beat that for the best of both worlds in terms of location.

I know a few people at BI in the city and they really don't have many complaints. They say the learning is "decent" but that you may know more than some of the residents (the avg fund of knowledge is probably not as high as our med school but there are a few very smart exceptions). There are a fair number of floor months but I was told that they usually have capped out around 11 this past year and the majority of the time have about 5 (not bad at all). Also, for the price, the subsidized housing in manhattan is great (the location is amazing). They are very close to cheap groceries on union sq (trader joes) and you are close to the LES, washington sq and union sq. Also, if you are interested in a diverse case load, this place appears to have it.