preliminary program---when to apply?

[narcotics999]

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should the preliminary ones be applied at the very beginning or after you receive the gas interviews? say you do not want to move?

 

[Leverage]

Apply early... some of the transitional years are more competitive to get then the anesthesia spots...The prelim medicine is not as competitive and I pretty sure you can always find a prelim surg spot. i might be wrong but I don't think prelim surg ever really fills up.

Also you know you don't want to move so apply to your home spot early and your next few top choices right off the bat.

Your gonna be applying for the same spots as Derm, Rads, and optho cats are...Point being, might as well apply early.

good luck...hope this helps..

 

[titanjones]

apply as earely as possible. Also do a mediicne year. you wont learn anything if u do a transitional. SOrry for the spelling errors. im on call tonight.

 

[scotchnwater]

should the preliminary ones be applied at the very beginning or after you receive the gas interviews? say you do not want to move?

It's understandable to want to wait until you get your Anesthesia interviews before submitting your prelim-year apps so you don't waste money applying to PGY-1 programs in a location where you may not get an anesthesia intervew, but here's the deal:

You pay one fee for 20 apps...so it really doesn't behoove you to wait. Just go ahead and apply early to anyplace you may want to be. It's the same price to apply to 20 places as it is to apply to 1.

The advice above about applying right off the bat to programs in the city you're in now is spot-on.

Don't do what I did and wait until November to apply to a PGY-1 spot!!!

 

[CalH22a]

Sorry for these silly questions, but do I find preliminary IM positions by searching for internal medicine programs through ERAS? How does the match handle prelim and categorical positions? If you match into a categorical, will the NRMP realize that and exclude you from matching into a prelim program? Thanks for any input.

 

[G0S2]

Sorry for these silly questions, but do I find preliminary IM positions by searching for internal medicine programs through ERAS? How does the match handle prelim and categorical positions? If you match into a categorical, will the NRMP realize that and exclude you from matching into a prelim program? Thanks for any input.

I first search IM programs in ERAS and under each name it states prelim and cat or just cat. I pick the program that has a prelim and check off the prelim box and write in anesthesiology in the space provided to indicate PGY2 program I am applying to. As I understand things, it is all in how you rank them. If I rank a cat gas position over the prelim med and match to that cat program, its done. If I rank a prelim over a cat/advanced program and match to that prelim, I would not know in the beginning of match week, if I also matched to an advanced gas program. When I find out I match in the beginning of the week, its either to a prelim only, cat, advanced only or hopefully advanced/prelim. The first hit you get going down your rank list is considered a match. If you first hit a prelim, it goes on to try an advanced match.

Wordy but I hope that helps some.

 

[coprolalia]

As I understand things, it is all in how you rank them. If I rank a cat gas position over the prelim med and match to that cat program, its done. If I rank a prelim over a cat/advanced program and match to that prelim, I would not know in the beginning of match week, if I also matched to an advanced gas program. When I find out I match in the beginning of the week, its either to a prelim only, cat, advanced only or hopefully advanced/prelim.

Not quite. You have "paired" rank lists. So, you can, for your first position, rank your prelim attached to your advanced. So if you match a prelim and you don't fill the advanced, it won't automatically stick you into some prelim in BFE. You go to the next spot, and the same process happens all over again.

For example:

Rank 1-

Top Choice University Prelim - Top Choice University Gas
Joe Blow Community Prelim - Top Choice University Gas
Middle O' Nowhere Med Prelim - Top Choice University Gas
Cush University Transitional - Top Choice University Gas

Rank 2-

St. Elsewhere Prelim - St. Elsewhere Gas
Suck U. Dry Prelim Surg - St. Elsewhere Gas
Lousy Community Med Prelim - St. Elsewhere Gas
West Egypt Transitional - St. Elsewhere Gas

The ranks are paired. You have to match into both, or you don't match at all. It'll be much clearer how it works when the NRMP site opens.

-copro

 

[G0S2]

Ah, thank you very much. Our program really doesn't do a great job explaining this.

Much appreciated.

 

[CalH22a]

Thanks for all the input! It has definitely cleared things up a bit!👍

 

[Raggaman]

So would you post the same gas personal statement for the prelim spot?

Ok ignore this, found the answer here : http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=558435&highlight=prelim