Programs in NY for DO?

[bongobingo]

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How hard is it to match these programs a DO: Montefiore, St Lukes, Long Island, SUNY Downstate, NYM, Maimonides? I saw their names in resident match lists(except for NYM). And also I saw a disproportional amount of NYCOM students at those programs. Does it mean that if they do take DO students, they prefer NYCOM or whoever takes an acting internship at the program is given equal consideration?

And another question I have: I feel I would have done better in my med school admissions process if I had certain interpersonal communications skills or leadership skills and/or if I got stronger LOR. I have a foreign accent. I stutter during interviews. First thing interviewers tell me when I open my mouth is "why are you so nervous?". Sometimes they can tell I am tense/nervous even by the way I walk. I have absolutely no problem with academic workload (except for a poor gpa in 1st years of ugrad) and will have no problem getting 250+ on step1. Do you think if someone gets rejected by all those nyc programs listed above then he will get rejected everywhere in the country? Or are those programs competitive enough that even if you can match somewhere else you still should not count on nyc?

Also is it helpful to do research to match anesthesiology? Being DO I obviously would not apply to elite programs like Columbia, NYU,etc. But do the other programs care about research? How about any other extracurricular activities? Is there anything outside of school that really beefs up your application for anesthesiology? Or it's just step1, performance on rotations, and interview?

Thank you!

 

[Doctor4Life1769]

How hard is it to match these programs a DO: Montefiore, St Lukes, Long Island, SUNY Downstate, NYM, Maimonides? I saw their names in resident match lists(except for NYM). And also I saw a disproportional amount of NYCOM students at those programs. Does it mean that if they do take DO students, they prefer NYCOM or whoever takes an acting internship at the program is given equal consideration?

And another question I have: I feel I would have done better in my med school admissions process if I had certain interpersonal communications skills or leadership skills and/or if I got stronger LOR. I have a foreign accent. I stutter during interviews. First thing interviewers tell me when I open my mouth is "why are you so nervous?". Sometimes they can tell I am tense/nervous even by the way I walk. I have absolutely no problem with academic workload (except for a poor gpa in 1st years of ugrad) and will have no problem getting 250+ on step1. Do you think if someone gets rejected by all those nyc programs listed above then he will get rejected everywhere in the country? Or are those programs competitive enough that even if you can match somewhere else you still should not count on nyc?

Also is it helpful to do research to match anesthesiology? Being DO I obviously would not apply to elite programs like Columbia, NYU,etc. But do the other programs care about research? How about any other extracurricular activities? Is there anything outside of school that really beefs up your application for anesthesiology? Or it's just step1, performance on rotations, and interview?

Thank you!

You're really going to have no issues getting a 250 on USMLE Step 1? More power to you, it's harder than it appears, where everyone and their moms get it on SDN.

I dunno much about those NY programs ... I imagine rotating there shows interest and at least gets you an interview. Research isn't necessary but anything helps. ECs dont matter. Work on public speaking, or you'll need a 250 to match.

 

[bongobingo]

You're really going to have no issues getting a 250 on USMLE Step 1? More power to you, it's harder than it appears, where everyone and their moms get it on SDN.

I dunno much about those NY programs ... I imagine rotating there shows interest and at least gets you an interview. Research isn't necessary but anything helps. ECs dont matter. Work on public speaking, or you'll need a 250 to match.

I am fairly certain that no matter what steps I take to improve my public speaking it will still be subpar 4 years from now. I do not have an accent in my native language yet people still tell me that I stutter or sound ******ed. I will not make a claim that I am certain to get 250+ on step1, just because it's easier to guarantee failure than success.

 

[bigdan]

Bongo -

1) I went to medical school in Long Island. You will, with 99% certainty, not match at Stony Brook in eastern Long Island as a DO. You do have a pretty good shot at NUMC, which is a major teaching center for NYCOM, which may be why they have NYCOM grads in their classes.

2) You know you better than I do, but you really could TRY to take public speaking courses, or get some professional help for your stutter and/or accent (try speech/language pathology for both those issues). To say you're "fairly certain" you will still be "subpar" after FOUR YEARS of work on those issues is admitting an early defeat, and you'll probably be right if you keep telling yourself that.

Be positive - life's too short. Good luck.

dc

 

[darkmansaad]

I have had a stuttering problem my entire life and it still comes out when I get too excited about something and try to jam all my thoughts out into one sentence. I am lucky to have worked through it (mostly) alone but if you have issues I would seriously look at professional help. It will affect how you interview, how you interact with patients, and how you interact with people in your social life. Its a big thing. Also im not sure if your a guy or not, but fixing the stutter does wonders for meeting girls 😉

 

[bongobingo]

I have had a stuttering problem my entire life and it still comes out when I get too excited about something and try to jam all my thoughts out into one sentence. I am lucky to have worked through it (mostly) alone but if you have issues I would seriously look at professional help. It will affect how you interview, how you interact with patients, and how you interact with people in your social life. Its a big thing. Also im not sure if your a guy or not, but fixing the stutter does wonders for meeting girls 😉

Thanks! Yes it definitely affects my life. It's worst when I talk to older people and whenever someone asks me to explain something or any other open-ended questions. I dont have this problem when I am the one asking questions. I have no serious problems with girls because when I drink my stutter and anxiety vanish. But 1 girl did explain (i did not ask her to) that she dumped me because I am not the same person when I am sober whatever that means. I would like to hire a speech pathologist. Someone even provided me with a # several weeks ago. But I am afraid to do it because I am just afraid it will not help. My problem is really bad. I just try to accept it like a person who has some physical defect and try to overcome it with other qualities like mcat or step1. But I might think about trying out that speech pathologist in the next few months, though it's not my style. Are there specialties where stutter/personal interactions is more important for success than in some other specialties?

 

[bongobingo]

Bongo -

1) I went to medical school in Long Island. You will, with 99% certainty, not match at Stony Brook in eastern Long Island as a DO. You do have a pretty good shot at NUMC, which is a major teaching center for NYCOM, which may be why they have NYCOM grads in their classes.

2) You know you better than I do, but you really could TRY to take public speaking courses, or get some professional help for your stutter and/or accent (try speech/language pathology for both those issues). To say you're "fairly certain" you will still be "subpar" after FOUR YEARS of work on those issues is admitting an early defeat, and you'll probably be right if you keep telling yourself that.

Be positive - life's too short. Good luck.

dc

Thank you! I am still waiting on an interview invite from nycom. I noticed that nycom students regularly match at numc, roosevelt, and montefiore. I did not see stony brook or downstate. Does it mean those schools are DO friendly or just NYCOM friendly? Is it that every student from NYCOM tries to rotate there and match and they accept only the top 3 students out of 300? How about if a student from a different DO school does an acting internship at one of those programs, would he then be on equal footing as NYCOM?

I wonder if I still have this problem 4 years from now, i.e. I say healz=health and teeth=tease and strange=strength and on a question why do you want to be a dr i say "ah I like to solve problems. ah and I like to help people. I mean I like science. And to help people. and ah and I I waaaant to make a difference in other people's lives. I mean I mean I always wanted to go into a profession that would allow me to make a difference in other people's lives". Would I be able to match anywhere in this manner if I get 15 interviews?