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Wanted to get a better understanding of the good doctor's financial future. I have attached a spread sheet with the projected salary of several specialties, please give me some general feedback/corrections. The growth in salary corresponds to residency, 1st/2nd year post-residency, and full-fledged status. The data was obtained from a combination of sites such as Glassdoor, ValueMD, etc. I realize that many variables influence pre-tax salary, just wanted to get an estimated average regardless of these variables.

If you want to take this one step further, make a best/worst/average case scenario for whatever specialty you choose. This is a great tool for predicting and managing future expenses, debt, taxes, etc.

The table assumes you start medical school in 2017.

Edit: My mistake, I should have emphasized that this is CRUDE data based on many assumptions. Please consider this before jumping to any conclusions.

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Where are you getting that the average ortho will start at 250k after residency? That seems pretty low, especially considering spinal guys can easily start at over 400k...
 
Jouster said:
Wanted to get a better understanding of the good doctor's financial future. I have attached a spread sheet with the projected salary of several specialties, please give me some general feedback/corrections. The growth in salary corresponds to residency, 1st/2nd year post-residency, and full-fledged status. The data was obtained from a combination of sites such as Glassdoor, ValueMD, etc. I realize that many variables influence pre-tax salary, just wanted to get an estimated average regardless of these variables.

If you want to take this one step further, make a best/worst/average case scenario for whatever specialty you choose. This is a great tool for predicting and managing future expenses, debt, taxes, etc.

The table assumes you start medical school in 2017.

J
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Your numbers are way way off, across the board. I'm also curious as to why you've constructed this grossly inaccurate spreadsheet.
 
I've always thought these sites are a bit low. Doximity's Career Navigator seems more believable. Although it seems to be having an error right now.
 
Thanks for making this, I don't really understand the haters in this thread, this is interesting data and a creative presentation. You cited your sources, and I think its obvious that these are rough/average numbers. If you made it a little more visually pleasing they would probably like it over at reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful
 
CaliforniaDreamer said:
Thanks for making this, I don't really understand the haters in this thread, this is interesting data and a creative presentation. You cited your sources, and I think its obvious that these are rough/average numbers. If you made it a little more visually pleasing they would probably like it over at reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful
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yeah I don't understand some of the people posting. you put a good amount of time to present data to us in a meaningful way that is important to us as future physicians/physicians. the people messing with you are just trolls. however, it doesn't seem completely accurate to me.. I haven't heard of many FM/IM docs starting at lower than 170k per year.... 145k is quite low. also i think the rest of the specialities are pretty underestimated too. EM docs make more than 192k a year staring regardless of where they work. to me, your ending salary is closer to the actual starting salary than your starting salary is after residency
 
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the people talking about how actual salaries are much higher are utter f*cking *****s. the medicare cuts in the past few years have cited FORUM POSTS as one of their sources for physician reimbursement being too high and needing to be cut down. now some march join date makes some spreadsheet and this points to him either being a loser or a shill or both. and you lowlifes are so quick to jump on the gun about how the spreadsheet is underreported because you dont get any play and this forum and being right on it are all you have.

unbelievable. physicians and med students seem to love pain and f*cking themselvee over.
 
567WingsO'Heaven said:
You mad bro?

#feeldeeznuts

Same goes to you Walter.

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How mature.

Considering at this point in your education, if I were you, I wouldn't talk down about fast food workers. You need to pass Step 1 and match before your degree means anything.

Without matching, you could very well end up working in fast food. Seriously.

I wish you all the best.
 
567WingsO'Heaven said:
Why don't you mind your own business?
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I did, until you said this:

567WingsO'Heaven said:
Just vote for Bernie and we'll all be fast food workers.


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Look, vote for Bernie, don't vote for Bernie. I don't care. But, when you post something so mind-numbingly stupid, don't cry when people call you out on it. Educate yourself before typing on that iPhone.

567WingsO'Heaven said:
Edit: I find it hilarious that you live in the Detroit metro area too... I can't wait to run into you in real life! Should be fun.

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Well, it won't be in the hospital unless you're a patient. My program doesn't take Caribbean rotators. And the only Caribbean graduates there are the surgical prelims.
 
567WingsO'Heaven said:
You mad bro?

#feeldeeznuts

Same goes to you Walter.


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You write the most inflammatory and belligerent comments with no regard to how it reflects on your character.


We need more people like you on SDN. To entertain people like me. Thank you for your contributions.
 
567WingsO'Heaven said:
Oh so since you clearly can't sense a joke,
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I can. Your joke just wasn't funny. Given the context of your other posts on health care reform and the election, again, I encourage you to read up about it from a source other than Fox News. If you still are anti-Bernie, fine. Lots of people here on SDN don't like him, so you'd be in good company. But at least then you would think twice before you get called out.

567WingsO'Heaven said:
And if you were my doctor I'd rather die. You seem like a terrible human being tbh.
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Actually, what I have written here is quite tame compared to the walloping you got on that other thread about Ross's match results. I am quite capable of responding to posts without resorting to threats or ad hominem attacks.

567WingsO'Heaven said:
Also, I guarantee you don't have the balls to say this stuff to me in person. You would likely be my b#*%h anyway.


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Word of advice: you're gonna need a thicker skin if you make it to the wards if you get this upset by my relatively light criticism. Attendings will rip you to shreds, and unfortunately, you can't call them your "b#*%h".

Also, I don't say anything on here I wouldn't say to your face in person. I can promise you that you don't frighten me in the slightest, given your intellectual and personal acumen demonstrated here.
 
LuluLovesMe said:
Link to said thread? :corny:
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http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...chool-of-medicine-match-2016-results.1190051/

For the record, I truly hopes he passes Step 1 and matches to the residency of his choice. I just wish that he wouldn't make such ridiculous statements. We all have differing opinions on universal health care reform, the election, foreign policy, etc. I get that and respect that. But there's a difference between a true disagreement and *****ic fear-mongering that's more reminiscent of 1953 than 2016.
 
SpAnKz89X said:
You sure talk a big game for a Caribbean medical student that has yet to pass Step 1, let alone match. Perhaps your time would be better spent studying for Step 1 than making largely ignorant anonymous comments on SDN.

#FeeltheBern
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SpAnKz89X said:
I did, until you said this:



Look, vote for Bernie, don't vote for Bernie. I don't care. But, when you post something so mind-numbingly stupid, don't cry when people call you out on it. Educate yourself before typing on that iPhone.



Well, it won't be in the hospital unless you're a patient. My program doesn't take Caribbean rotators. And the only Caribbean graduates there are the surgical prelims.
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SpAnKz89X said:
I can. Your joke just wasn't funny. Given the context of your other posts on health care reform and the election, again, I encourage you to read up about it from a source other than Fox News. If you still are anti-Bernie, fine. Lots of people here on SDN don't like him, so you'd be in good company. But at least then you would think twice before you get called out.



Actually, what I have written here is quite tame compared to the walloping you got on that other thread about Ross's match results. I am quite capable of responding to posts without resorting to threats or ad hominem attacks.



Word of advice: you're gonna need a thicker skin if you make it to the wards if you get this upset by my relatively light criticism. Attendings will rip you to shreds, and unfortunately, you can't call them your "b#*%h".

Also, I don't say anything on here I wouldn't say to your face in person. I can promise you that you don't frighten me in the slightest, given your intellectual and personal acumen demonstrated here.
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I love you
 
MrChance2 said:
So Physicians are the only profession that gets raises? The guy that works at McDonalds without a pay bump for 20 years saddens me, hopefully he gets to assistant manager someday.
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Apparently it's going to be cheaper for fast food companies to use machines for burger-flipping soon instead of paying $15/hr. like some people desire.

http://www.businessinsider.com/carls-jr-wants-open-automated-location-2016-3
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...onalds-ceo-threatens-replace-employees-robots

This quote from one of the workers is my fav 🙂 "“We’ve been working hard to make new changes like the all-day breakfast..."

Really puts our SDN nonsense into perspective doesn't it?
 
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