Proof: The existence of angle gods

[HannibalLecter]

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If angle gods don't exist on this question and can't help you may the devil bless your soul because you are screwed.

Anyone got any tips on this or should I just pray? Even first glance doesn't work. I tried breaking up into congruent triangles but the second angle just seems smaller to me in any scenario.

 

[casper22]

I was like...what he asking about second one is definately smaller till I saw the measurements on the top..

 

[aliciaworking]

If there are this type of very close angles presented in the real DAT (which I have taken), it would only be one or two questions, and you should try using the other angles and use the answer choices to rule out the wrong answers - if that doesn't work, just make a guess and move on -- that one question isn't worth the headache, seriously. You can still get 23 without knowing this one.

Usually the angles are AT LEAST 3 degrees apart.

 

[HannibalLecter]

Yeah the thing is I haven't gotten pretty good at noticing the trend amongst the answer choices that I am able to deduce it down to two angles where I am supposed to measure literally the answer choices that I had gotten down to were:

A) 1-2-3-4
B) 2-1-3-4

I literally started praying at that point

 

[reely989]

Yeah the thing is I haven't gotten pretty good at noticing the trend amongst the answer choices that I am able to deduce it down to two angles where I am supposed to measure literally the answer choices that I had gotten down to were:

A) 1-2-3-4
B) 2-1-3-4

I literally started praying at that point

Worst comes to worst, try looking at the pixelation of the angles. Looks like the first one is darker at the point on my screen. Of course, for this one, that wouldn't have helped me because I would have bet you 10 dollars the second was smaller until I knew it was wrong and looked at the pixelation.

 

[jonishere5]

If angle gods don't exist on this question and can't help you may the devil bless your soul because you are screwed.

Anyone got any tips on this or should I just pray? Even first glance doesn't work. I tried breaking up into congruent triangles but the second angle just seems smaller to me in any scenario.

I actually didn't believe that the first angle was smaller than the 2nd. I printed them out got out the protractor and those numbers were accurate, I totally would have missed this one. =(

 

[PhansterZ]

If angle gods don't exist on this question and can't help you may the devil bless your soul because you are screwed.

Anyone got any tips on this or should I just pray? Even first glance doesn't work. I tried breaking up into congruent triangles but the second angle just seems smaller to me in any scenario.

Some of these angles questions, you just have to give up. Got totally fooled by those 2 angles.

I was drastically improving in all areas of the PAT, but I didn't improve much on the angles. I usually do them really fast and then leave 5 minutes at the end of the test to go back and redo angles.

 

[AmpJBieberblast]

Orly? I actually see the difference at a glance without even doing the thumb trick. Me going to get h8t3rs for saying this?

 

[PhansterZ]

Orly? I actually see the difference at a glance without even doing the thumb trick. Me going to get h8t3rs for saying this?

Of course not, some people are more natural at it than others.

 

[HannibalLecter]

Even the use of Megan Fox's thumbs couldn't solve this problem

 

[PhansterZ]

Even the use of Megan Fox's thumbs couldn't solve this problem

Don't stress too much about the angles. The legendary 28AA Jaap couldn't even solve them.

It is certainly possible to do close to perfect. Here are my scores:

Academic 28
Perceptual 20
Quantitative 25
Reading 29
Biology 26
Chemistry 29
Organic 29
Total Science 29

I don't think I missed any questions in chem, ochem, and reading, which leads me to believe the highest score you can actually get is a 29, not a 30. That being said, I think it is possible to get a 29 in chem and ochem if you really want it. The chem topics are quite straightforward and if you learn them all...it's possible. Ochem as well, since it is rather basic topics and everything is multiple choice which makes it easier.

Biology just has too much information to really be able to prepare for a perfect score, but I'm sure it's been done by someone on a lucky day. Reading I got lucky, but you can prepare to get at least mid 20s. Math should be possible if you really go crazy with it, but it is very fast and a little tricky here and there. There is no way to score perfect on the PAT in my opinion, the angles alone will put you out of the running.

That being said, I wouldn't go crazy with the DAT. I studied about 3 weeks 2hrs a day and then a month 5 hrs a day. I wouldn't put tons of time into the test just to get a crazy score. It doesn't hurt, but I don't think it helps me any more than a 22 or 24 would have.

 

[bburl09]

Maybe I'm just making this up, but the first time I looked at the attachment I thought it was a mistake. I read the entire post then looked again but this time I tilted my head to look at a level version of angle 2. It does indeed look bigger. Can anyone else confirm using that technique?

 

[UCB05]

It's possible. It just takes a lot of practice. I got the CDP version with the extra angles drills and did 15 in the morning, 15 in the evening, every day until the exam and gradually got better. Eventually you just get better at picking out differences. Worked out great for me. A few folks have gotten a 30 on the PAT.

 

[HannibalLecter]

bburl9 actually tilting your head in this case does work, I noticed the difference as well
wow thanks for the tip

 

[baseballplayer9]

i put each thumb really close to the angle (covering up most of the line except for a small portion- maybe like a 1/2 cm). Making the angles really small helps me a lot in distinguising between the smaller and larger one. Is that what you guys do for the most part? I've gotten 23 and 28 on topscore, and 21,21,23,23,25,23,25 on CDP tests 1-7 and use this technique for the angle section. Just thought I's share

 

[casper22]

I don't know if this will work for others, but when dealing with very close angles i put each thumb really close to the angle (covering up most of the line except for a small portion- maybe like a 1/2 cm). Making the angles really small helps me a lot in distinguising between the smaller and larger one. I've gotten 23 and 28 on topscore, and 21,21,23,23,25,23,25 on CDP tests 1-7 and use this technique for the angle section. Just thought I's share

Cool I will give this a try...but do you actually touch the screen with your thumbs....the reason I ask is, on the real test, i thought you were not suppose to touch the screen...

 

[baseballplayer9]

Cool I will give this a try...but do you actually touch the screen with your thumbs....the reason I ask is, on the real test, i thought you were not suppose to touch the screen...

ya i do.. i dont know if that is a rule or not

 

[Pat Kelly]

you can't put your hands anywhere close to the screen. They videotape the area and if they go back and see it you will get disqualified. Don't cheat and actually do it the way that most people do.

 

[HannibalLecter]

Actually I used the markers as measuring devices for the angles last time. I am not going to do that again because they have clearly stated in the directions before the exam that the use of objects/hands or whatever is not permitted in PAT. So I ain't doing it. Even though I wasn't caught last time I think it is very risky for a 300 dollar test (+500 that you put in to study for it)

 

[baseballplayer9]

you can't put your hands anywhere close to the screen. They videotape the area and if they go back and see it you will get disqualified. Don't cheat and actually do it the way that most people do.

Ive never taken it before so i didnt know. Before the test was ever computerized you would have been able to do this on paper so i just assumed you could. And i dont see how this would be considered cheating, but how do most people do it then? just look at it and guess?

 

[glo1984]

By using the "riding a bike down the hill trick" (go figure...), you'll notice the 2nd angle would cause a greater increase in velocity.

 

[baseballplayer9]

you can't put your hands anywhere close to the screen. They videotape the area and if they go back and see it you will get disqualified. Don't cheat and actually do it the way that most people do.

I just talked to 2 different people from the ADA, someone from Prometric customer service and someone from my local testing center and all said it was not a problem touching the screen and you definitely wouldn't get in trouble.

 

[spoog74]

by using the "riding a bike down the hill trick" (go figure...), you'll notice the 2nd angle would cause a greater increase in velocity.

+1

 

[casper22]

+1

Can you elobrate more on that technique..I am a little confuse with it..

 

[HannibalLecter]

I just talked to 2 different people from the ADA, someone from Prometric customer service and someone from my local testing center and all said it was not a problem touching the screen and you definitely wouldn't get in trouble.

I need to confirm this but if this is true all my angle worries will go south but thanks for the update dude 👍

Can you elobrate more on that technique..I am a little confuse with it..

1) You try to level the bottom base of both of the angles on a similar plane. This means you have to tilt your head to the right for the second angle
2) Then for the actual variable base that is created by the angle you try to imagine you are riding your bike down them. You can clearly see that you will reach the bottom of angle 2 with a faster velocity than angle 1.

Hope that helps

 

[laul89]

oh nice.. im about to study for the DATS and I can kind of see what you're saying so i'll take that with me as I go over it. Thanks