Psychologist Murdered in Her Own Office...

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Armed with a suitcase full of knives, an unidentified middle-aged man unleashed a rampage of violence inside the offices of an Upper East Side psychiatry practice on Tuesday night, fatally stabbing and slashing a well-known psychologist before wounding her colleague when he tried to come to her aid, officials said on Wednesday.


The assailant had not been identified as of Wednesday afternoon, the police said, though investigators were pursuing a theory that he was either a patient at the suite of offices, at 435 East 79th Street, or that he had some kind of ties to the establishment or the services it provided.

Originally, the assailant had arrived at the offices, about 8 p.m. on Tuesday, asking to visit Dr. Kent T. Shinbach, 70, a psychiatrist there, the police said.

But at some point he disappeared inside the office of another counselor there, Kathryn Faughey, 56, the police said.

There, he unleashed a barrage of violence, fatally stabbing Dr. Faughey. At some point, when Dr. Shinbach heard the attack and went to the office of his colleague, the assailant turned on him and Dr. Shinbach was seriously injured, officials said.

The scene was marked by blood and upended furniture, the police and neighbors said.

“We could see in the office where the blinds had been ripped off and were hanging at a strange angle and the entire office was in disarray,” said Alexandra Pike, 20, a student who could see into the office where the attack occurred from the window of her apartment across the street. “Papers were strewn around and there was overturned furniture. And it was clear there was some kind of scuffle.”

It is unclear what the man’s motive was, and Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly released a sketch of the suspect after a news conference at 1 Police Plaza on Wednesday, saying detectives were seeking him. The sketch was based on descriptions provided to detectives of those who saw the man in the moments before the attack — including the surviving victim — but who could not identify him by name.

“Obviously there is a forensic evidence aspect to this case,” Mr. Kelly said. “We’re getting information from the doctor and other medical professionals in the suite to determine if they have any information to add as the investigation goes forward.”

He added: “We’re fully engaged on several fronts.”

Mr. Kelly described the assailant as a man in his 40’s, about 5 feet 9 inches, with brownish or blond hair. He was wearing a three-quarter length green coat, with sneakers and a baseball cap, said Mr. Kelly, as he held up the sketch before a bank of television cameras.

The first sign of the man’s entrance at the building was captured on videotape —as he walked in the front door about 8 p.m., passed by a doorman and went into the counselors’ suite of offices, the police said. He was inside for about an hour: A videotape showed him leaving through a basement door about 8:54 p.m., the police said, and it showed a view of him from his back.

Blood was found on the door — a panic door that locks on its own when it shuts — indicating the assailant might have been wounded.

Before he fled, the assailant left two suitcases in the basement. Inside one was assorted women’s clothing — some shoes, a top, as well as diapers for adults. He other had about eight knives, the police said. Upstairs in the room of Ms. Faughey, investigators found three other weapons, including two knives and a cleaver with a broken handle, the police said.

A female patient was in the lobby of the counselors’ suite when the assailant showed up, the police said. She apparently left before the attack on Dr. Faughey became known, but detectives tracked her down and interviewed her, the police said. Dr. Shinbach was also interviewed after undergoing surgery at New York Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center.
 
Unfortunately this is yet another reason why I'm going to get a carry permit. It is sad that this kind of thing happens, but there are a lot of troubled people out there, and we need to take proper precautions.
 
I have a carry permit, multiple handguns and intend to keep it that way. My girl can shoot as well and carries a .45 Auto. It just makes sense that, however unlikely, you should have the means to keep yourself safe.

Mark

PS - Yes, I am a Texan at heart.
 
I have a carry permit, multiple handguns and intend to keep it that way. My girl can shoot as well and carries a .45 Auto. It just makes sense that, however unlikely, you should have the means to keep yourself safe.

Mark

PS - Yes, I am a Texan at heart.

By "carries" do you mean always has it with her? And you too? I am a California liberal at heart and will just agree to disagree on the principle, so I'm honestly just curious. If you keep it at home, wouldn't you need to keep it loaded to be effective for a break-in or something? Eek, even talking about it makes me scared! There was a girl stabbed at the mall right by my school on Sunday afternoon, I've kind of had the creeps ever since. :scared:
 
Besides carrying, what other options do we have?
In class, are we taught of any way to handle this kind of thing?
 
holy hell.


never in 1000 years would i have dreamed that this would be the response that this thread would garner.

while i respect your 2nd amendment right, i belive that this is a significantly odd reponse in professional setting.

the vast majority of patients have 0 intention of hurting you. they are simply hurt individuals looking for help. there are not statistics on pts that hurt their shrinks that i know of, because it is an EXCEPTIONALLY rare occurrence. which is why the media is most likely playing it up. while media might protray this frequently (e.g., huff), this is jsut as accurate as silence of the lambs was for forensic psychologists.

I know of 0 psychologists that carry guns. This includes psychologists that work with gang members, convicts, murderers, etc. Carrying a gun would undoubtedly get you fired at any hospital (JCAHO standards), community mental health clinics (funding restrictions), college counselling centers, and every private practice in which i have ever worked.

In school they teach you to take basic safety precautions ( unlisted everything, parking in a visisble area, sitting by the door in a session if you have a reason to fear a patient, knowing how to dial 911. in some settings they require you to attend a course in nonviolent self defense. ). the professionals' reactions to this are generally that this is a shocking occurrence that saddens everyone. by no means is the professional community running out to buy guns. they recognize the incredibly infrequency in which this occurrs. i would imagine that getting in a car accident is much more likely to occur.
 
Unfortunately this is yet another reason why I'm going to get a carry permit. It is sad that this kind of thing happens, but there are a lot of troubled people out there, and we need to take proper precautions.

Who would have thought this would come from a person whose very screen name implies pacifist solutions! Not that I mind people who legally carry guns but perhaps you should change your name to CharlesBronson4Chnge! :laugh:

I have a carry permit, multiple handguns and intend to keep it that way. My girl can shoot as well and carries a .45 Auto. It just makes sense that, however unlikely, you should have the means to keep yourself safe.

Mark, you have mentioned that you have military training which means that you are somewhat of an expert, at least compared to me, in using firearms. I was wondering, if you were unexpectedly assaulted by a client would you really have time to pull out or find your gun to protect yourself?

Your girl carries a gun! Wow! I am not aware if any of my SDN women carry weapons. I had better check!

Besides carrying, what other options do we have?
In class, are we taught of any way to handle this kind of thing?


My hands are registered with the FBI, CIA, and NRA as lethal weapons! :laugh: I did the stunts in all of the Steven Segal movies! :laugh: I suggest every psychologist/ mental health worker study the kung fu - flying dragon technique!
 
Who would have thought this would come from a person whose very screen name implies pacifist solutions! Not that I mind people who legally carry guns but perhaps you should change your name to CharlesBronson4Chnge! :laugh:

:laugh:

I am all for the non-violent, pro-active, etc solution, but if that doesn't work, I will have another option. I'm still a republican and 2nd amendment supporter whether I am at work or not. I'm not scared of my patients, but I'm concerned with our world in general. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
 
By "carries" do you mean always has it with her? And you too? I am a California liberal at heart and will just agree to disagree on the principle, so I'm honestly just curious. If you keep it at home, wouldn't you need to keep it loaded to be effective for a break-in or something? Eek, even talking about it makes me scared! There was a girl stabbed at the mall right by my school on Sunday afternoon, I've kind of had the creeps ever since. :scared:

Yes, when I can legally carry (there are places like bars and D.C. where it is illegal to carry.) I carry and usually she does as well. While I have never had to draw my gun, I would much rather have a gun and never need it, than to need a gun and never have it.

Yes, an unloaded gun is not very useful. We both picked guns with solid safety records when "cocked and locked." My girl used to be anti-gun, then she actually learned how to shoot one, her tune changed quickly.

I understand your beliefs, and yes, we have to disagree. I can only think that many people's lives could have been saved had only one person been carrying a firearm at NIU yesterday.


Mark
 
holy hell.


never in 1000 years would i have dreamed that this would be the response that this thread would garner.

while i respect your 2nd amendment right, i belive that this is a significantly odd reponse in professional setting.

the vast majority of patients have 0 intention of hurting you. they are simply hurt individuals looking for help. there are not statistics on pts that hurt their shrinks that i know of, because it is an EXCEPTIONALLY rare occurrence. which is why the media is most likely playing it up. while media might protray this frequently (e.g., huff), this is jsut as accurate as silence of the lambs was for forensic psychologists.

I know of 0 psychologists that carry guns. This includes psychologists that work with gang members, convicts, murderers, etc. Carrying a gun would undoubtedly get you fired at any hospital (JCAHO standards), community mental health clinics (funding restrictions), college counselling centers, and every private practice in which i have ever worked.

In school they teach you to take basic safety precautions ( unlisted everything, parking in a visisble area, sitting by the door in a session if you have a reason to fear a patient, knowing how to dial 911. in some settings they require you to attend a course in nonviolent self defense. ). the professionals' reactions to this are generally that this is a shocking occurrence that saddens everyone. by no means is the professional community running out to buy guns. they recognize the incredibly infrequency in which this occurrs. i would imagine that getting in a car accident is much more likely to occur.

My viewpoint is a little biased by being active duty military, but it is also colored by the fact that I have seen countless massacres where having a gun would be beneficial. Does anyone remember NIU yesterday? Virginia Tech a few months back?

Now in the case of a military psychologist where the likelihood of my patients being armed is pretty damn high, I think that owning a gun is the responsible position. Military psychiatrists and psychologists have been killed on base, in military hospitals. I am not advocating breaking the law, but when I am allowed to carry a gun, I do so.

Mark
 
Mark, you have mentioned that you have military training which means that you are somewhat of an expert, at least compared to me, in using firearms. I was wondering, if you were unexpectedly assaulted by a client would you really have time to pull out or find your gun to protect yourself?

Actually, a gun is the last thing I would want to use to protect myself from simple assault. As you noted, I am in the military, but my martial arts training was all during my civilian days. I am capable of defending myself and spent a number of years involved in the sport of Judo. Judo is a wonderful art, you learn a lot of techniques that are valuable for restraining someone who might wish to hurt you and techniques that can give you a few needed seconds to extract yourself from a situation.

I'm not a large guy, but at 5'10" and 200 lbs, I am not easily dismissed. Most patients wouldn't look at me and decide that I am the one they want to get violent with. I do agree that you do everything you can to minimize the conflict that would lead to a patient wanting to become violent, but when someone snaps and you are in the line of fire... it helps to know that you have some options (which include running.)

Mark
 
i'm kind of sad that all we can think of to talk about in response to this awful crime is handguns and martial arts. it seems a bit inappropriate.
 
i'm kind of sad that all we can think of to talk about in response to this awful crime is handguns and martial arts. it seems a bit inappropriate.

Well feel free to add something more appropriate. I am sure that everyone here is stunned by the loss, at the same time a discussion of how to prevent this kind of victimization in the community seems appropriate to me.

Mark
 
I understand your beliefs, and yes, we have to disagree. I can only think that many people's lives could have been saved had only one person been carrying a firearm at NIU yesterday.


Mark

Just to play devil's advocate, one could argue that many people's lives could have been saved had no one been carrying a firearm at NIU. I do understand where you are coming from and I appreciate your explanation, even if I can't agree with it.
 
Just to play devil's advocate, one could argue that many people's lives could have been saved had no one been carrying a firearm at NIU. I do understand where you are coming from and I appreciate your explanation, even if I can't agree with it.

You are absolutely correct! However that is not the real issue, because according to the law, no one should have had a firearm there. I appreciate a dissenting viewpoint, still when someone decides to engage in this type of a behavior (as seen above) a gun is certainly not a necessity. It's unfortunate, because I truly feel bad for the woman who was murdered for simply being a good citizen and going to work. She certainly did not deserve what happened to her. I know that many times therapists are afraid of their clients, and this is not a good thing. I see it with some of my peers in practicum placements.

Mark
 
So have people been taught how to handle safety issues in their program?

That's a really interesting question. So far, in the (extensive... bordering on obsessive?) research I've done on programs' websites, course listings, etc., I haven't seen much in the way of coursework related to safety issues. Although, I think this might be an area where research-oriented programs could differ from practice-oriented programs. Ostensibly, folks who work in private practice are in a more precarious position than folks who work in academia (as overall, therapy clients will develop more intense relationships toward their therapists than research subjects will toward experimenters). An (extremely sad) obvious counterpoint, though, is NIU.

Should APA start requiring courses on how we, as clinical psychologists in various capacities, can stay safe? Should this be part of the ethics requirement? I haven't yet decided where I personally fall on this issue. As a profession that works closely with potentially violent populations, I think some education on ways to protect oneself could be really valuable. On the other hand, situations like the one in NYC are very rare, and probably happen with equal frequency in many professions (e.g., lawyers).

I do think knowing that your therapist carries a handgun could be damaging to the therapeutic alliance, though, especially for clients who have trauma/abuse histories. That's a HUGE power dynamic to surmount.
 
I do think knowing that your therapist carries a handgun could be damaging to the therapeutic alliance, though, especially for clients who have trauma/abuse histories. That's a HUGE power dynamic to surmount.

Well I don't think that its necessary for the client to know if you carry or don't carry a handgun. As a matter of fact, I believe it is better that they don't know the answer to that question. I think that the impression many people might be taking from this is an image of Dirty Harry, Psychologist.

A bigger dynamic to overcome is when you are in a court-ordered position or the dual relationship issues that other government and military psychologists face. Getting your soldier, sailor, or airman to open up when he had been directed to mental health is extremely challenging... talk about a power dynamic that is hard to surmount!

I do agree that some education on how to handle personal safety and security should be available to us as a profession. We won't all agree on how to handle safety and security, and that's ok.

We all hope that we are never in this position. Violence in the workplace is not a situation that any of us want to experience. As a profession, I don't think that taking a hard stance on personal security is appropriate. I believe that individuals need to determine how they wish to address the issues and act according to their beliefs and conscience.

Mark

PS - Great points BTR!
 
A bigger dynamic to overcome is when you are in a court-ordered position or the dual relationship issues that other government and military psychologists face. Getting your soldier, sailor, or airman to open up when he had been directed to mental health is extremely challenging... talk about a power dynamic that is hard to surmount!

That is something I've asked friends of mine before who work with inmates. This tends to be a pretty large hurdle for them, even in assessment work. As for police work, I've heard the same for both assessment (fitness for duty evals) and therapy (PTSD, substance abuse, etc) work. Forensic work isn't my thing, but it definitely made me think about the role of duel relationships in many different scenarios.
 
T4C, did you mean "duel relationship" or "dual relationship"? I think your conversations over on the murder thread have bled into this ... :laugh:

Edited: Whoops, we are on the "murder thread."

That is something I've asked friends of mine before who work with inmates. This tends to be a pretty large hurdle for them, even in assessment work. As for police work, I've heard the same for both assessment (fitness for duty evals) and therapy (PTSD, substance abuse, etc) work. Forensic work isn't my thing, but it definitely made me think about the role of duel relationships in many different scenarios.
 
T4C, did you mean "duel relationship" or "dual relationship"? I think your conversations over on the murder thread have bled into this ...

And you're a psychodynamicist (...I'm pretty sure I just made up a word. 🙂 ), aren't you, T4C? Hmmm.... :laugh:

A friend of mine did a year long field placement in the state prision, and strangely enough, never really seemed scared of her clients (a large subset of which were paranoid schizophrenics) at all, though she was a bit unnerved by the fact that the inmates had their own cell doors that they could lock and unlock at will.
 
this is included in this month's Monitor on Psychology:

[FONT=verdana, sans serif, helvetica, arial][SIZE=-1]HOW TO [/SIZE].
[FONT=verdana, sans serif, helvetica, arial][SIZE=+1]Stay safe in practice[/SIZE].
[FONT=verdana, sans serif, helvetica, arial]It's rare, but a reality: Some clients can turn violent. Here are some suggestions to protect yourself..
[FONT=verdana, sans serif, helvetica, arial]By Christopher Munsey.

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2008/04/client_violence.html
 
this is included in this month's Monitor on Psychology:

[FONT=verdana, sans serif, helvetica, arial][SIZE=-1]HOW TO [/SIZE].
[FONT=verdana, sans serif, helvetica, arial][SIZE=+1]Stay safe in practice[/SIZE].
[FONT=verdana, sans serif, helvetica, arial]It's rare, but a reality: Some clients can turn violent. Here are some suggestions to protect yourself..
[FONT=verdana, sans serif, helvetica, arial]By Christopher Munsey.

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2008/04/client_violence.html

I applaud certain parts of the article and have problems with a few others.

1. A video monitoring system in a large office will not protect you... especially when it only monitors common areas.

2. A receptionist monitoring the action on a bank of cameras is not really something I would want to count on either, not to mention the impact that this would have on the therapeutic relationship!

3. While keeping everyone safe and having an evacuation plan seems reasonable, it also seems a little unrealistic. It would make sense to have one or two "security" officers on staff instead, possibly in the role of "receptionist". I would think that I'd hire someone who's previously worked for blackwater.

4. Install a panic room, have you priced office space in D.C. and N.Y., the above mentioned thug for hire (oops, I mean security specialist) would be cheaper!

5. Panic rooms, colleague interruptions, and buying heavy chairs seem to just be going a bit too far.

Recommendations, I did like.

1. Small Lockers to leave personal belongings in before attending therapy.
2. Self Defense techniques that give enough opportunity to the victim of an attack to call for help or escape a potentially harmful situation.
3. Close proximity to an exit
4. Education on identifying potentially violent clients

Clearly training on staying safe is relevant and important. Each of us has different thoughts on what it means to be safe and how to practically implement it in our offices. What works in some environments may be clearly inappropriate in others. I think the key is education and a plan for dealing with violent clients. If one has both of those in place the likelihood of a situation ending in a poor outcome is dramatically reduced.

Mark
 
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