Qs on hole punch rule + Qvault!

[themrn]

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when folding the paper, it always has to be folded out (not folding into the screen)??

or either way into and out of screen is allowed? seems like qvault hole punch sometimes folds into the screen... i'm really confused.

can somebody explain this to me please!!?

 

[paymaant]

Hole punches consist of the paper being folded out of the page. Pattern folding is into the page!

 

[themrn]

thanks!! so than being said, qvault PAT is wrong!!

 

[hope_to_match]

thanks!! so than being said, qvault PAT is wrong!!

i don't have qvault but many people used it and had amazing scores on the test...and no one mentioned qvault's PAT is not a reliable source..can you post a screenshot of one of the q's where you think they are wrong in the folding (either hole punches or pattern folding)?

 

[themrn]

i don't have qvault but many people used it and had amazing scores on the test...and no one mentioned qvault's PAT is not a reliable source..can you post a screenshot of one of the q's where you think they are wrong in the folding (either hole punches or pattern folding)?

i took the screen shot but don't know how to upload it. It says put the link of my image?? or something. how do i solve it?

 

[hope_to_match]

i took the screen shot but don't know how to upload it. It says put the link of my image?? or something. how do i solve it?

use photobucket for that. upload an image there then put your mouse over the image and a little thing will pop up in the upper right hand corner. click on it and a few links will pop up that you can use to upload to diff websites. Choose the very last one. Copy the link and then paste it here

 

[themrn]

use photobucket for that. upload an image there then put your mouse over the image and a little thing will pop up in the upper right hand corner. click on it and a few links will pop up that you can use to upload to diff websites. Choose the very last one. Copy the link and then paste it here

done! thanks for the tip

so what you think of it? folded into the screen.. right? i know it would not affect the answer but confusing!

 

[hope_to_match]

done! thanks for the tip

so what you think of it? folded into the screen.. right? i know it would not affect the answer but confusing!

i use LOS method which has been working on 11 practice tests thus far 100% (CDP and Achiever) and it doesn't work here (i guess because of the 1/3 fold..? i haven;t encountered these yet) so I have no clue what's going on here 😱😕

 

[sakthivs]

ya..wtf can somone explain how to do this one?

 

[Bond535]

The line of symmetry method works perfectly here. Just do same thing as you would do if the paper was folded out, not in! The correct answer is Indeed E.

Just think this was, the only dot being reflected on the first line of symmetry is the dot that's on the left side. After being reflected, it will be the new dot that's on top of the one on the right side and then just unfolded the paper normally still following the line of symmetry rule and that's it 🙂

Hope this helps!

 

[hawkeye712]

The line of symmetry method works perfectly here. Just do same thing as you would do if the paper was folded out, not in! The correct answer is Indeed E.

Just think this was, the only dot being reflected on the first line of symmetry is the dot that's on the left side. After being reflected, it will be the new dot that's on top of the one on the right side and then just unfolded the paper normally still following the line of symmetry rule and that's it 🙂

Hope this helps!

Think you can make a quick video and show us? I still can't figure it out after your explanation.

 

[sakthivs]

ya still dont understand with LOS

 

[calvzzz]

Hope this helps.

 

[Bond535]

Hope this helps.

Perfect explanation! Great job

 

[themrn]

Hope this helps.

sorry but another Q!!!

why there's no dots at the very top part? since top portion was folded and overlaped with the bottom part (although it wasn't complete fold).

 

[hope_to_match]

thank you for explanation!

 

[Psa]

sorry but another Q!!!

why there's no dots at the very top part? since top portion was folded and overlaped with the bottom part (although it wasn't complete fold).

My point exactly! Although the first fold is very uneven, it should cover the left hole punch. Which means that once you unfold it, the answer is E but with holes in the top right and left corners. I think this is a mistake.

 

[Bond535]

My point exactly! Although the first fold is very uneven, it should cover the left hole punch. Which means that once you unfold it, the answer is E but with holes in the top right and left corners. I think this is a mistake.

There's no further reflection on the top because the dots are already on the line of symmetry. If the folded line has a dot on it, means that the hole doesn't reflect. If you can understand the LOS technique it will work everything. Just keep an eye on the holes that are on the folded line, which means NO reflection.

Also it's a 1/3 fold so the paper it's not completely folded down, therefore it's not touching the other holes at bottom. That's why the dots at the bottom do not reflect when unfolded. The first fold was just folded 1/3 of the paper then it was folded in and that's when it touched the other hole creating the new reflected dot.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

 

[Psa]

There's no further reflection on the top because the dots are already on the line of symmetry. If the folded line has a dot on it, means that the hole doesn't reflect. If you can understand the LOS technique it will work everything. Just keep an eye on the holes that are on the folded line, which means NO reflection.

Also it's a 1/3 fold so the paper it's not completely folded down, therefore it's not touching the other holes at bottom. That's why the dots at the bottom do not reflect when unfolded. The first fold was just folded 1/3 of the paper then it was folded in and that's when it touched the other hole creating the new reflected dot.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

I don't see how the left DOT does not get flipped up on the last unfold (aka the first fold). I understand the line of symmetry for the middle 2 dots... They're on the los, but the left dot is not...

 

[Psa]

There's no further reflection on the top because the dots are already on the line of symmetry. If the folded line has a dot on it, means that the hole doesn't reflect. If you can understand the LOS technique it will work everything. Just keep an eye on the holes that are on the folded line, which means NO reflection.

Also it's a 1/3 fold so the paper it's not completely folded down, therefore it's not touching the other holes at bottom. That's why the dots at the bottom do not reflect when unfolded. The first fold was just folded 1/3 of the paper then it was folded in and that's when it touched the other hole creating the new reflected dot.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

You kinda answered my question but since its a 1/3 fold, shouldn't it include the left dot?

 

[Bond535]

You kinda answered my question but since its a 1/3 fold, shouldn't it include the left dot?

It does not get reflected because after doing the first 1/3 fold, the folded paper was never behind the left dot. Therefore it can't get reflected.

Behind that left dot on the first fold, there's nothing. I know it's tricky this 1/3 fold but you just need to visualize the uneven folds better

 

[themrn]

i think this is the right one.... not sure if i understood 100% on how they were folded.

 

[Psa]

It does not get reflected because after doing the first 1/3 fold, the folded paper was never behind the left dot. Therefore it can't get reflected.

Behind that left dot on the first fold, there's nothing. I know it's tricky this 1/3 fold but you just need to visualize the uneven folds better

Thank you. I understand it now.

i think this is the right one.... not sure if i understood 100% on how they were folded.

This is how I thought we have to fold but it's incorrect. The first fold has to be 1/3 of the whole square. Your fold shows little more than 1/3. It's very tricky.