Quebec anyone?

[fcelestin]

I'm graduating from a US med school in june but I'm a Canadian permanent resident of Quebec - how difficult is it to get into a Canadian residency program like McGill for example?

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[Trini]

Hi fcelestin

I don't know about McGill, but I know Quebec is actively looking for doctors and are going as far as selecting and training IMG's because of the shortage, so they may be some opportunity for you to get into a Residency Program in Quebec.

Check out the Government Site under the heading Consensus reached by Qu?bec and the F?d?ration des m?decins sp?cialistes du Qu?bec, there's a press release, but it's in French and I don't know French!

http://www.gouv.qc.ca/Accueil/Nouvelles/Nouvelles_en.html

You can also contact the Federation for further information.

Hope this is of some help!

Trini

 

[NuMD97]

Trini:

Since you were kind enough to post information about Quebec, could you be more specific as to how one could contact the appropriate authorities? E-mail address for example?

I'm trying to find the Canadian equivalent of the US "Green Book". Does such a directory exist in Canada?

Thanks in advance.

Nu

 

[Trini]

Hi Nu

Sorry for the late response, this is the e-mail address that I used: [email protected] however I haven't had a response yet.

Mr. Yves Dugr?, MD
President
Federation of Medical Specialists of Qu?bec

I'm not aware of a Green Book, however if you find anything close to that please let us know.

Thanks

Trini

 

[white daisy]

i will be starting my residency at mcgill this july. Which specialty/program are you looking at?

 

[Trini]

Surgery...

 

[simsim]

i will be starting my residency at mcgill this july. Which specialty/program are you looking at?

hi white daisy, i am a jenior resident in Egypt.
i wanna have residensy in McGill in radiology or other special .
i am on my way to immigrate.
thanks for your time .simsim.

 

[jbish]

hi white daisy, i am a jenior resident in Egypt.
i wanna have residensy in McGill in radiology or other special .
i am on my way to immigrate.
thanks for your time .simsim.

I don't think this is as easy as it sounds. Yes, Quebec trains IMGs- but they tend to have specific agreements with specific countries- like Saudi Arabia for instance-and these trainees have to sign documents stating they'll return to their home country when they're finished with residency. If you look at the CaRMS match for the past few years, there aren't too many open spots at McGill- and certainly not in surgery! In fact, the only surgery spot that regularly seems to go unmatched is neurosurgery. Also, you may have a harder time and not be able to do first iteration match round b/c you did not attend a Canadian med school- although the first person I'm not sure as you have residency/citizenship. It may be easier to match into a program in the U.S. and then return to Canada to work- surgery programs are 5 years in both the US and Canada so it'll be easier to make that transition than some other programs. I'm not sure what your visa status is in the States, however- but surgery may be one of the specialties that is applicable for a J1. (Quebec is picky about what residencies they'll give away J1s for)

As for the Egyptian- it's going to be a long road. You'll want to make sure your medical school training is considered equivalent of Canadian/US training first- as you may find yourself in the unlucky predicament of having to repeat all of medical school even though you've already completed residency. At the very least, you'll need to pass the LMCCs- and radiology is even tougher to match into than surgery. You almost never see open rads spots after first round CaRMS.

 

[firetown]

I'm graduating from a US med school in june but I'm a Canadian permanent resident of Quebec - how difficult is it to get into a Canadian residency program like McGill for example?

I think Mcgill allows US students to participate in the carms match in the first round. Should not be a problem for you since you will be a US graduate.

 

[Lara]

I just posted about this on the general residency board. In my case I was born and raised in Montreal but am studying medicine in the US. Unfortunately I'm going into peds, of which there are only 3-5 CaRMS spots at McGill (probably 1/3 of a comparable program in the States). This is dictated by the government. Obviously that's not enough manpower, so they've made agreements with Middle-East countries like Saudi Arabia to import residents outside the match. Nothing against them, but it's pretty frustrating. 😡 The fact is that even though I'm eligible for the first round, it's very unlikely I'll get in competing against Canadian grads who also want Montreal. 🙁

 

[k1000]

I just posted about this on the general residency board. In my case I was born and raised in Montreal but am studying medicine in the US. Unfortunately I'm going into peds, of which there are only 3-5 CaRMS spots at McGill (probably 1/3 of a comparable program in the States). This is dictated by the government. Obviously that's not enough manpower, so they've made agreements with Middle-East countries like Saudi Arabia to import residents outside the match. Nothing against them, but it's pretty frustrating. 😡 The fact is that even though I'm eligible for the first round, it's very unlikely I'll get in competing against Canadian grads who also want Montreal. 🙁

Hi Lara,

I'm a medical student at McGill and I just wanted to clarify McGill's relationship with residents who come to train from the middle east. All of these residents come with their own funding paid for by their government. What this means for McGill is that we get residents who work- just like any other canadian resident paid 40 000/a- for FREE. So while I can understand your frustration at how few pediatrics residency spots there are at McGill... I would not direct any of it at the residents who come from the middle east. On the other hand I really think that someone should be lobbying the Canadian government to increase the number of residency training spots!

K1000

 

[Lara]

Oh, I definitely understand they're not subsidized by Canada, nor are they taking spots that would have gone to Canadians instead. They're filling a manpower *need* caused by the lack of spots in the first place, as you said. A hospital like MCH can't run with an intern class of only 4-5, so I don't blame McGill for getting around that this way. And I don't think it's the only school in Canada to do this (there was a report on CTV News which seemed to be in Ontario). So no, I don't blame the foreign residents - I'm just disappointed in the system and lack of opportunity to return home. Sorry if I gave the other impression!

In the end, if I was top of my class with clinical honors I'd have a chance anyway - but that's not the case, so it's my fault too and I have to accept it. Or apply to family, but much as I love Montreal it's not worth giving up the option of specializing for.

 

[Regallo]

Hi fcelestin

I don't know about McGill, but I know Quebec is actively looking for doctors and are going as far as selecting and training IMG's because of the shortage, so they may be some opportunity for you to get into a Residency Program in Quebec.

Check out the Government Site under the heading Consensus reached by Qu?bec and the F?d?ration des m?decins sp?cialistes du Qu?bec, there's a press release, but it's in French and I don't know French!

http://www.gouv.qc.ca/Accueil/Nouvelles/Nouvelles_en.html

You can also contact the Federation for further information.

Hope this is of some help!

Trini

Hello every one...

I have read the whole thread and the other threads about Canada , and I wonder howcome Quebec to be actively looking for doctors while other parts of Canada are full of "tons of jobless of them" ( well , as I have concluded ).


Thanks...

 

[nouveau007]

Hey Regallo,

In Quebec, all students need to get a provincial (Quebec) licensing. This year in McGill one third of family-medicine graduates failed the licensing exam. This mean they are able to practice in all Canada except Quebec. Usually these people leave Quebec to somewhere else in Canada.

Hope these facts will help you clarify your doubts. 😉

 

[elle2006]

I live in Quebec.To practice here you must past the french exam and, belive me, it is very difficult.Try to find Le Collège des Médecins du Québec.

 

[docbill]

My friend who is francaphone from Laval University almost failed the quebec exams. But passed the Canadian boards no problem.

The French exam requirments are okay. Unless you are a really high-in-demand specialist you have to do it.