Question about Emory and Henry Ford

[Hamlet MD]

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Hello,

My question is which of these two programs has the better "reputation" in the EM world? I am not asking which is the better program because I know both are awesome well-established programs who train excellent residents. I love both programs and I want an inner-city urban hospital setting. I guess I am having a hard time choosing between the two.

Thanks in advance.

 

[dlung]

Henry Ford has Dr. Manny Rivers in its favor.

 

[FelicityShagwel]

Hello,

My question is which of these two programs has the better "reputation" in the EM world? I am not asking which is the better program because I know both are awesome well-established programs who train excellent residents. I love both programs and I want an inner-city urban hospital setting. I guess I am having a hard time choosing between the two.

Thanks in advance.

i can only say anythinga bout grady/emory- what a great program. you will definitely get a fantastic training experience in a wide variety of settings, from county (grady- it's like it's own country) to middle of the road (emory) to private-fountains-in-the-lobby crawford long. and dr. kellermann? what an amazing man, he is my idol! and other great faculty members who do research or clinical work or both! wow, i should get paid for this. i really have no affiliation with the program, so it's just my humble opinion. good luck!

 

[MasterintuBater]

I did my EM rotation at Ford so I only know about it. Best reason to go to Ford....Manny Rivers. I hear he was the ghost writer for most of Tintinalli. 😀 J/K but seriously I'm told he walks on water. Ford was a great experience and was the impetus for my decision to go into EM.

 

[WakeMedHeel]

I did my EM rotation at Ford so I only know about it. Best reason to go to Ford....Manny Rivers. I hear he was the ghost writer for most of Tintinalli. 😀 J/K but seriously I'm told he walks on water. Ford was a great experience and was the impetus for my decision to go into EM.

Dr. Kellerman is a pretty impressive fellow himself.

 

[Dr.Evil1]

Being from Detroit, I only know about Henry Ford. Like people have said one of the big positives about HF is Dr. Rivers work on early intervention in sepsis and the resulting ICU focus of the Cat. 1 portion of the ED. They also have a very large ICU with many great attendings, they have a combined EM/IM program and the only EM/IM/Critical care program in the country. The patients that come to the ER are some of Detroit's finest: gang bangers, drug addicts, etc the kind of patients that will allow you to make a post on the "What your patients have taught you" thread. They occasionally get people from the suburbs too...but pretty rare for you to see them through the ED. The ER residents all seem happy here too. They have a strong research focus. Drawbacks to the program that I have seen include the physical plant (there will not be a new ER anytime soon despite what anyone will tell you) and a minimum of peds experience. A female student that I know was put off by the fact that the entire 1st year class of 14 EM residents is male.

I will not try to pretend that Detroit has the same type of weather that Atlanta has but if you don't mind having 4 real seasons then Detroit is great. The city itself is struggling right now but hopefully it will continue in it's slow economic recovery. There are MANY things to do in and around the city especially if you enjoy sports or music.

I don't know much about Emory except that one of my classmates liked it alot when she interviewed there. Hopefully everything will hash out in the end and you will be happy at either place.

 

[KGUNNER1]

Hello,

My question is which of these two programs has the better "reputation" in the EM world? I am not asking which is the better program because I know both are awesome well-established programs who train excellent residents. I love both programs and I want an inner-city urban hospital setting. I guess I am having a hard time choosing between the two.

Thanks in advance.

Several of the Emory faculty trained at Ford. They were great residents and faculty at Ford and continue to excel at Emory. Tough decision. Both are great programs. FYI, no Emory grads at Ford, whatever that means.

One of my partners in the ER and ICU trained at Emory and he loved it there and is also a great doc.

KG

 

[emdoc11]

I'm an EM resident at Henry Ford and can't comment on Emory however, I know several Henry Ford graduates are faculty at Emory.

Henry Ford has an outstanding reputation in academic emergency medicine. We are one of the oldest EM programs in the country, training graduates since '77 or '78 and officially since 1982. We are a verified ACLS Level I trauma center. Our graduates practice in academic and community settings all around the country. 4/5 local Detroit EM residency programs have Henry Ford graduates as either program directors or associate program directors. We have the only EM/IM/Critical Care program in the country.

In terms of research, we are strong in stroke, sepsis, congestive heart failure, and asthma. Dr. Rivers is the pioneer of early goal-directed therapy in the Emergency Department and we are the only Detroit EM program and one of the few in the country to practice early goal-directed therapy in the ER.

Dr. Lewandowski, our program director, is heavily involved in stroke research, particularly, tPA. Lastly, Dr. Nowak is involved in use of BNP for predicting CHF.

If you train at Henry Ford, you will learn to manage the sickest of the sick patients. We routinely place SvO2 catheters and arterial lines in our ED. Our high-acuity area functions like a mini-ICU. We utilize BiPAP/CPAP in the ED routinely. When you graduate from Ford, you will be able to practice around the country.

 

[Hamlet MD]

Thanks for all the replies and help so far. The only ones I have not heard from yet are current Emory residents.