Question about Pain medicine salary in the NE/NYC and doing it as a Psychiatrist.

[experiment113]

Hi all, just wondering about the salary for Pain medicine doctors in the NE, mainly NYC and surrounding regions. Also, how practical is it to match into a pain med fellowship and actually be a good pain medicine doctor that is hirable as a residency trained psychiatrist.

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[Peterluger]

Hi all, just wondering about the salary for Pain medicine doctors in the NE, mainly NYC and surrounding regions. Also, how practical is it to match into a pain med fellowship and actually be a good pain medicine doctor that is hirable as a residency trained psychiatrist.

There are definitely programs in NYC that have taken psychiatrists into their fellowships. It might be a good niche, because there arent that many pain psychiatrists out there (meaning, people specifically specializing in the psychiatric component of Pain). If you show interest, have good references, and apply broadly, you have a decent shot. As far as job market, I know that it’s very bad for Pain in the nyc area.

 

[experiment113]

There are definitely programs in NYC that have taken psychiatrists into their fellowships. It might be a good niche, because there arent that many pain psychiatrists out there (meaning, people specifically specializing in the psychiatric component of Pain). If you show interest, have good references, and apply broadly, you have a decent shot. As far as job market, I know that it’s very bad for Pain in the nyc area.

why is it bad in nyc, due to saturation?
how much can you make in pain?
where is the demand good for pain.

 

[Peterluger]

why is it bad in nyc, due to saturation?
how much can you make in pain?
where is the demand good for pain.

It’s bad in nyc because of saturation, the pie is being divided a million different ways because of so many pain docs. The demand is good for pain in parts of the southern US from what I’ve heard

 

[experiment113]

It’s bad in nyc because of saturation, the pie is being divided a million different ways because of so many pain docs. The demand is good for pain in parts of the southern US from what I’ve heard

what about long island, westchester, upstate ny?
Also how is the pay? Thanks .

 

[deleted284725]

I’m not sure about upstate. But nyc and to a lesser degree Long Island are pretty saturated. In nyc overhead keeps salary low. Think like 250-275 to start with very hard to reach incentive thresholds . Lots of shady private practices too that have a reputation for working you hard and then letting you go before you make partner. Big institutions are probably the safest job but with little room for salary/position advancement. It’s possible to be successful down the road, just harder and riskier than everywhere else.
Long Island you can do better, maybe start closer to 300 and more realistic incentive numbers but I haven’t heard of many jobs around there lately from people I know looking.

 

[Ducttape]

technically, upstate starts somewhere near Poughkeepsie, which is roughly 80 miles north of NYC.

upstate also includes Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany....

fairly saturated for salaried positions, and pay is not great. think $225-250...



tho in upstate, you can reasonably open your own practice.....

 

[Pain Applicant1]

technically, upstate starts somewhere near Poughkeepsie, which is roughly 80 miles north of NYC.

upstate also includes Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany....

Disagree wholeheartedly, native NY'er here. Born and bred in Queens and my wife hails from the Bronx. We're bridge and tunnel people as those who move to Manhattan from out of town used to refer to us before Bklyn gentrified and became trendy. Upstate is definitely 💯anything north of the Bronx. LOL!!

 

[Pain Applicant1]

technically, upstate starts somewhere near Poughkeepsie, which is roughly 80 miles north of NYC.

upstate also includes Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Albany....

fairly saturated for salaried positions, and pay is not great. think $225-250...



tho in upstate, you can reasonably open your own practice.....

I interviewed in Utica in the early days. I turned it down once I saw an icicle from a second story reach the ground. I also liked Boston during fellowship, up until about November.

 

[lobelsteve]

I interviewed in Utica in the early days. I turned it down once I saw an icicle from a second story reach the ground. I also liked Boston during fellowship, up until about November.

Utica: worst Dunder Mifflin branch ever.

 

[SSdoc33]

Westchester feels like upstate to me. basically anything north of white plains is upstate

 

[Ducttape]

im letting you know what is technically thought to be "upstate".

from my standpoint, I agree, Westchester county is the northern point.



or put another way, wherever the natives stop speaking with a Bronx accent.

 

[Peterluger]

to manhattan and brooklyn people, Bronx is considered upstate. LOL

 

[Pain Applicant1]

to manhattan and brooklyn people, Bronx is considered upstate. LOL

The boogie down is upstate, no way!!!!