Question on out-of-state controlled C-II Prescriptions

[sellit697]

Need some clarification: is it legal to fill out-of-state C-II prescriptions in California? For example, Illinois C-II prescriptions do not have a special form like California does - can it still be filled?

Appreciate if anyone can actually point or reference California regulations for this as I'm having a hard time finding any section directly discussing the issue of out-of-state RXs, especially those states which do not have special forms for C-II drugs.

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[eagles22]

Need some clarification: is it legal to fill out-of-state C-II prescriptions in California? For example, Illinois C-II prescriptions do not have a special form like California does - can it still be filled?

Appreciate if anyone can actually point or reference California regulations for this as I'm having a hard time finding any section directly discussing the issue of out-of-state RXs, especially those states which do not have special forms for C-II drugs.

You have no history on this website and now are asking information that could be used to commit fraud. No one is going to give you that information.

 

[meister]

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[Farmercyst]

http://www.pharmacy.ca.gov/publications/10_sep_script.pdf

Q. Can I fill a controlled substance prescription written by a prescriber in another state if it is written on a California security prescription form? Can I fill it if it is not written on a California security prescription form?
A. The answer to the first question is yes, but the answer to the second question is not so simple. If it is not written on a California security prescription form, H&SC section 11164.1 directs that the prescription must conform to the laws of the state where the prescription was written. California pharmacists may dispense Schedule III-V controlled substances pursuant to a prescription issued by a prescriber in another state, but prescriptions for Schedule II medications may be dispensed only for delivery to a patient in another state. In other words, the pharmacist cannot dispense a Schedule II controlled substance directly to the patient in California if the prescription is not on a California security prescription form.
Q. Can I fill a controlled substance prescription written by a prescriber on a military base in California if it is not written on a California security prescription form?
A. No. Again, the same answer applies to this question as the one given for the previous question.

Taken from the CA BOP publication "The Script" Sept 2010

So, if you're from IL, chances are you won't have the required C2 form from CA and the meds can not be given to you across the counter. If you want them UPSed to IL, then it looks possible.
If you're from Reno, then your prescriber likely has a form printed on an authorized printer's pad and it can be filled. Even though, it's technically an out of state prescriber.

 

[meister]

http://www.pharmacy.ca.gov/publications/10_sep_script.pdf

Q. Can I fill a controlled substance prescription written by a prescriber in another state if it is written on a California security prescription form? Can I fill it if it is not written on a California security prescription form?
A. The answer to the first question is yes, but the answer to the second question is not so simple. If it is not written on a California security prescription form, H&SC section 11164.1 directs that the prescription must conform to the laws of the state where the prescription was written. California pharmacists may dispense Schedule III-V controlled substances pursuant to a prescription issued by a prescriber in another state, but prescriptions for Schedule II medications may be dispensed only for delivery to a patient in another state. In other words, the pharmacist cannot dispense a Schedule II controlled substance directly to the patient in California if the prescription is not on a California security prescription form.
Q. Can I fill a controlled substance prescription written by a prescriber on a military base in California if it is not written on a California security prescription form?
A. No. Again, the same answer applies to this question as the one given for the previous question.

Taken from the CA BOP publication "The Script" Sept 2010

This is interesting, I'm pretty sure this is new?

11164.1. Prescription for Controlled Substance Issued in Another State for Delivery to Patient in Another State; Dispensing by California Pharmacy
(a)
(1) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a prescription for a controlled substance issued by a prescriber in another state for delivery to a patient in another state may be dispensed by a California pharmacy, if the prescription conforms with the requirements for controlled substance prescriptions in the state in which the controlled substance was prescribed.
(2)
All prescriptions for Schedule II and Schedule III controlled substances dispensed pursuant to this subdivision shall be reported by the dispensing pharmacy to the Department of Justice in the manner prescribed by subdivision (d) of Section 11165.
(b)
Pharmacies may dispense prescriptions for Schedule III, Schedule IV, and Schedule V controlled substances from out-of-state prescribers pursuant to Section 4005 of the Business and Professions Code and Section 1717 of Title 16 of the California Code of Regulations.

They specifically excluded CIIs to the detriment of humans physically in the state, how bizarre and stupid IMHO.

 

[Farmercyst]

This is interesting, I'm pretty sure this is new?


They specifically excluded CIIs to the detriment of humans physically in the state, how bizarre and stupid IMHO.

I agree. I had a pt in from AZ with an Rx for MS Contin 30mg #60 and it was on an plain white piece of paper that was printed at her physician's office. I couldn't fill it and have no legal means of having it phoned/faxed/e-rx'd. So this 80+ year old has no means of pain relief without going to the urgent care/ED and having an appropriate CII rx filled out by a local MD. Who are they going to take their frustrations out on? Probably the person who says, "you can't have the meds your physician prescribed to you on what is a perfectly legal rx in your home state."

 

[meister]

I agree. I had a pt in from AZ with an Rx for MS Contin 30mg #60 and it was on an plain white piece of paper that was printed at her physician's office. I couldn't fill it and have no legal means of having it phoned/faxed/e-rx'd. So this 80+ year old has no means of pain relief without going to the urgent care/ED and having an appropriate CII rx filled out by a local MD. Who are they going to take their frustrations out on? Probably the person who says, "you can't have the meds your physician prescribed to you on what is a perfectly legal rx in your home state."

And I have no doubt the exclusion for ferrying prescriptions in and out of the state is for mail-order warehouses which I'm sure the legislators had no problem allowing (after some generous campaign donations), but granny get her cancer pain meds? Lmao, get the f*ck out of California lady.

 

[grizzlesgrizzlies]

I agree. I had a pt in from AZ with an Rx for MS Contin 30mg #60 and it was on an plain white piece of paper that was printed at her physician's office. I couldn't fill it and have no legal means of having it phoned/faxed/e-rx'd. So this 80+ year old has no means of pain relief without going to the urgent care/ED and having an appropriate CII rx filled out by a local MD. Who are they going to take their frustrations out on? Probably the person who says, "you can't have the meds your physician prescribed to you on what is a perfectly legal rx in your home state."

Arizona is pretty much "anything goes" regarding their CII scripts. Basically allowing up to a 90 day supply lol