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1st half and the notice came by phone. good luck everyone!
Questions or advice about UCSF?
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1st half and the notice came by phone. good luck everyone!
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One of my good friends got into UCSF the very day she moved to UCLA to start school there. Do not despair. There are some very fickly people out there, and the the wait-list moves more than you might think.
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I like UCSF because it's tops in research AND patient care. I like their humanistic studies program because I like ethics and would like to do some study in ethics while a med student.
I'm also a PA resident which makes it highly unlikely I'll even get a secondary from this school. But you can always hope, right?
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I'm also a PA resident which makes it highly unlikely I'll even get a secondary from this school. But you can always hope, right?
D
I just looked at the first year booklist. Does anyone know what books I need to buy?
(I certainly hope that I don't need to buy all of them...)
Here is the list:
1) Textbook of Medical Physiology Boron and Boulpaep W B Saunders
2) Robbins: Pathologic Basis of Disease 6th edition Cotran, Kumar, Collins W B Saunders
3) When the Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down Fadiman FSG
4) Medical Genetics 3rd Edition Jorde, Carey, Bamshad, White Mosby
5) Basic and Clinical Pharmacology. 8th edition. Katzung McGraw Hill
6) Pathophysiology of Disease: An Introduction to Clinical Medicine. 3rd Edition McPhee, Lingappa, Ganong, Lange McGraw Hill
7) Atlas of Human Anatomy. 2nd Edition Netter Novartis
8) Mosby's Guide to Physical Exam. 4th edition Seidel, Ball, Dains, Benedict Mosby
9) Wheater's Functional Histology, 4th Edition Young and Heath Churchill Livingstone
(I certainly hope that I don't need to buy all of them...)
Here is the list:
1) Textbook of Medical Physiology Boron and Boulpaep W B Saunders
2) Robbins: Pathologic Basis of Disease 6th edition Cotran, Kumar, Collins W B Saunders
3) When the Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down Fadiman FSG
4) Medical Genetics 3rd Edition Jorde, Carey, Bamshad, White Mosby
5) Basic and Clinical Pharmacology. 8th edition. Katzung McGraw Hill
6) Pathophysiology of Disease: An Introduction to Clinical Medicine. 3rd Edition McPhee, Lingappa, Ganong, Lange McGraw Hill
7) Atlas of Human Anatomy. 2nd Edition Netter Novartis
8) Mosby's Guide to Physical Exam. 4th edition Seidel, Ball, Dains, Benedict Mosby
9) Wheater's Functional Histology, 4th Edition Young and Heath Churchill Livingstone
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I know every person feels differently about buying 'required texts', but I give you my advice now that I can think about the first year retrospectively.
Don't buy any books atleast until orientation. Netter's atlas is a must for Prologue, but you can get it 'free' with a membership to the student AMA or something like that. Wheater's Histology is also pretty helpful during Prologue, but our online Histology curriculum is sweet and I did just fine learning Histo with the online material alone, but it was nice to check out Wheater's from time to time. (We have a used book store around campus that always has Wheater's so hold off on it). The physiology text may come in handy for organs, but I recommend just checking it out in the library if you need more explanations. Our syllabi are awesome and the physiology sections are very strong (I looked at the physio text for some of the renal/acid-base physio). The Katzung text is way too detailed and I think is just an inducer of stress. If you are the type of person that likes to know that incredible nitty-gritty of pharmokinetics and pharmacodynamics you might like it, but if you want to focus more on clinical medicine the syllabi and maybe Katzung's (UCSF professor) board review book would be better. I've never heard of that medical genetics textbook, nor have I met a classmate that had it. Robbins is awesome. I thought it was very helpful throughout organs, heme/onc, and BMB. Great book. The pathophys of disease by Lingappa et al (UCSF professor) is a good succint text, but is definitely not necessary to learn the material well. Mosby's is supposedly good for the physical exam (I don't own it).
Here is the list:
1) Textbook of Medical Physiology Boron and Boulpaep W B Saunders - Hold off on it, check it out from the library if needed.
2) Robbins: Pathologic Basis of Disease 6th edition Cotran, Kumar, Collins W B Saunders - I'd buy it when Organ's starts.
3) When the Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down Fadiman FSG. Great book that we discuss in FPC a little bit. I highly recommend it for pleasure.
4) Medical Genetics 3rd Edition Jorde, Carey, Bamshad, White Mosby . Nah.
5) Basic and Clinical Pharmacology. 8th edition. Katzung McGraw Hill. Too detailed, too bulky, too overwhelming.
6) Pathophysiology of Disease: An Introduction to Clinical Medicine. 3rd Edition McPhee, Lingappa, Ganong, Lange McGraw Hill. Good, but Robbin's is better.
7) Atlas of Human Anatomy. 2nd Edition Netter Novartis. A must.
8) Mosby's Guide to Physical Exam. 4th edition Seidel, Ball, Dains, Benedict Mosby. Can't say one way or the other.
9) Wheater's Functional Histology, 4th Edition Young and Heath Churchill Livingstone. Possibly good for prologue. Check out the online material and see how comfy you are with Histo first.
I hope that helps. Some people bought all of the books before school started. I don't think that is necessary. Our syllabi are very detailed and very large. You'll be pretty busy. For prologue: Netters, maybe Wheaters. For organs/heme/onc: Robbins, check out physio text from library when needed. BMB: has its own text.
Best of luck. It is a great place.
Don't buy any books atleast until orientation. Netter's atlas is a must for Prologue, but you can get it 'free' with a membership to the student AMA or something like that. Wheater's Histology is also pretty helpful during Prologue, but our online Histology curriculum is sweet and I did just fine learning Histo with the online material alone, but it was nice to check out Wheater's from time to time. (We have a used book store around campus that always has Wheater's so hold off on it). The physiology text may come in handy for organs, but I recommend just checking it out in the library if you need more explanations. Our syllabi are awesome and the physiology sections are very strong (I looked at the physio text for some of the renal/acid-base physio). The Katzung text is way too detailed and I think is just an inducer of stress. If you are the type of person that likes to know that incredible nitty-gritty of pharmokinetics and pharmacodynamics you might like it, but if you want to focus more on clinical medicine the syllabi and maybe Katzung's (UCSF professor) board review book would be better. I've never heard of that medical genetics textbook, nor have I met a classmate that had it. Robbins is awesome. I thought it was very helpful throughout organs, heme/onc, and BMB. Great book. The pathophys of disease by Lingappa et al (UCSF professor) is a good succint text, but is definitely not necessary to learn the material well. Mosby's is supposedly good for the physical exam (I don't own it).
Here is the list:
1) Textbook of Medical Physiology Boron and Boulpaep W B Saunders - Hold off on it, check it out from the library if needed.
2) Robbins: Pathologic Basis of Disease 6th edition Cotran, Kumar, Collins W B Saunders - I'd buy it when Organ's starts.
3) When the Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down Fadiman FSG. Great book that we discuss in FPC a little bit. I highly recommend it for pleasure.
4) Medical Genetics 3rd Edition Jorde, Carey, Bamshad, White Mosby . Nah.
5) Basic and Clinical Pharmacology. 8th edition. Katzung McGraw Hill. Too detailed, too bulky, too overwhelming.
6) Pathophysiology of Disease: An Introduction to Clinical Medicine. 3rd Edition McPhee, Lingappa, Ganong, Lange McGraw Hill. Good, but Robbin's is better.
7) Atlas of Human Anatomy. 2nd Edition Netter Novartis. A must.
8) Mosby's Guide to Physical Exam. 4th edition Seidel, Ball, Dains, Benedict Mosby. Can't say one way or the other.
9) Wheater's Functional Histology, 4th Edition Young and Heath Churchill Livingstone. Possibly good for prologue. Check out the online material and see how comfy you are with Histo first.
I hope that helps. Some people bought all of the books before school started. I don't think that is necessary. Our syllabi are very detailed and very large. You'll be pretty busy. For prologue: Netters, maybe Wheaters. For organs/heme/onc: Robbins, check out physio text from library when needed. BMB: has its own text.
Best of luck. It is a great place.
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souljah1 gave some pretty good advice on textbooks. However, I tend to over-buy when it comes to textbooks because I like to have them as reference both during the course and afterwards. I bought all of the mentioned textbooks and used most of them to some degree (some more than others).
The medical genetics textbook (by Jorde et al) is actually very good if you are interested in the subject. It is too bad that UCSF seems to undervalue genetics teaching, especially in light of the era of genomics, pharmacogenomics, and general enhanced understanding of the genetic basis/components of disease. There were only a handful of good genetics lectures throughout the entire core curriculum (both during Cancer block on Microarrays and Pharmacogenetics). The rest left much to be desired, IMHO (my research background is in genetic basis of neurological disease). So if you want to learn more about the field of human genetics and clinical applications, I do recommend the textbook.
Hope this helps and see you in the fall! 😀
The medical genetics textbook (by Jorde et al) is actually very good if you are interested in the subject. It is too bad that UCSF seems to undervalue genetics teaching, especially in light of the era of genomics, pharmacogenomics, and general enhanced understanding of the genetic basis/components of disease. There were only a handful of good genetics lectures throughout the entire core curriculum (both during Cancer block on Microarrays and Pharmacogenetics). The rest left much to be desired, IMHO (my research background is in genetic basis of neurological disease). So if you want to learn more about the field of human genetics and clinical applications, I do recommend the textbook.
Hope this helps and see you in the fall! 😀
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Hey,
I am applying to UCSF from out of state (PA, go to school in NY) and am wondering how many people are accepted/interviewed from outside california. I know UCSF is a state school but I have heard that it often takes many people from outside.
I am applying to UCSF from out of state (PA, go to school in NY) and am wondering how many people are accepted/interviewed from outside california. I know UCSF is a state school but I have heard that it often takes many people from outside.
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Anyone know of criteria/methods which UCSF uses in screening applications for secondaries/interviews?
Thanks 🙂
Anyone know of criteria/methods which UCSF uses in screening applications for secondaries/interviews?
Thanks 🙂
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I remember this one. The UCSF website has a detailed list (and I believe it is in order of priority) of what it looks at in the initial screen.
Here it is.
What does the Admissions Committee consider in the initial reviews of my application?
The Admissions Committee looks at:
GPAs
MCAT scores
state of legal residency
personal statement of the applicant
the extent and depth of extracurricular activities
work experience
honors and awards
the background of the student
Here it is.
What does the Admissions Committee consider in the initial reviews of my application?
The Admissions Committee looks at:
GPAs
MCAT scores
state of legal residency
personal statement of the applicant
the extent and depth of extracurricular activities
work experience
honors and awards
the background of the student
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Hi I'm a second year undergrad. I'd really love to go to UCSF. Could you just give me some general advice?
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Bear1220 said:
Hey Bear,
Go to the UCSF Missing Link Forums and ask about that. I don't live (or shop) near campus so I can't advise in that regard.
About the textbooks, though, I pretty much second souljah1's recommendations but I would add the Katzung board review version of the pharm book. I have found it very helpful.
citygirl said:
I dont' go there, but there's a Cala Foods (small supermarket chain in SF) near the main hospital. And near the campus, there's supermarkets on Geary and some shops on California at Laurel Heights, less than two blocks away.
BTW, the public transporation is great around UCSF. You can catch Muni Busline 1 to go towards the Richmond District and Clement Street which has Chinese groceries. Take the 38 to go downtown do some shopping. Everything is within 45 minutes from the UCSF.
Lucky people. I didn't even get a secondary from them. Doubt I'll make it. good luck in your future studies 👍
