i have a problem. i'm sure there are others who would like to know the answers to this dilemma. i plan on ranking both 3-year and 4-year anesthesia programs. by 4-year, i'm referring to those programs that integrate the pgy-1/preliminary year into the categorical anesthesia residency. from word of mouth, i heard anesthesia applicants must submit 2 different rank order lists: one for anesthesia, the other for preliminary year programs. now suppose in my anesthesia rank order list, i rank both 3-year and 4-year anesthesia programs. and then i rank separately my preliminary year programs. what if i match into a preliminary year program AND a 4-year anesthesia program?? i'm so confused and i'm sure i'm not the only out there...help!!!
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if I remember correctly, but if you match to a categorical program, your preliminary list will become inactive. You will not be held to a commitment to a prelim year when you already have a categorical clinical base year in place.
BTW, for those of you who intend to just scramble for a prelim/transitional year and save money and time on the interview trail, I've heard some stories recently from a couple of incoming CA-1's for our program that would make your stomach crawl. Give yourself some options if possible.
BTW, for those of you who intend to just scramble for a prelim/transitional year and save money and time on the interview trail, I've heard some stories recently from a couple of incoming CA-1's for our program that would make your stomach crawl. Give yourself some options if possible.
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So, if I understand correctly you're saying that if your match is to a categorical program (i.e. a 4 year program in which the 1st year is your intern year) then that automatically drops you from any separate matches to other transitional/prelim programs?
On the other hand if you match to a 3 year program (no prelim year included) then you have to find a prelim/intern year--so it's better to enter the match for a prelim year in case you match at a 3 year residency program so you don't have to scramble after the match?
I think that's what you're saying, I just wanted to verify it. There is a lot of confusion involved with this whole match thing.
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On the other hand if you match to a 3 year program (no prelim year included) then you have to find a prelim/intern year--so it's better to enter the match for a prelim year in case you match at a 3 year residency program so you don't have to scramble after the match?
I think that's what you're saying, I just wanted to verify it. There is a lot of confusion involved with this whole match thing.
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You just have to rank 3 and 4 year programs in the order that you want them. For the 3 year programs, there's a supplemental list where you can separately rank 1st year programs any way you like. If you apply to a program that has both, you can rank them consecutively on your rank list
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hey UTsouthwestern
you are scaring me with these stories that "would make your stomach crawl". i was planning on trying to scramble for a pyg-1 spot because the program i want to match at for anesthesia only has advanced positions and i only got one interview as far as ty programs are concerned and didn't apply to prelim medicine programs. it was my presumuption that scrambling into a prelim spot somewhere in the country in not a big deal--that there are plenty of spots that go unfilled. can you elaborate on your stories please.
you are scaring me with these stories that "would make your stomach crawl". i was planning on trying to scramble for a pyg-1 spot because the program i want to match at for anesthesia only has advanced positions and i only got one interview as far as ty programs are concerned and didn't apply to prelim medicine programs. it was my presumuption that scrambling into a prelim spot somewhere in the country in not a big deal--that there are plenty of spots that go unfilled. can you elaborate on your stories please.
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There are plenty of spots that will be available but most will be in some pretty ****ty locales and/or ****ty programs that will beat you to death. One of our incoming CA-1's has been e-mailing me from Mississipi and she has been just incredibly miserable and overworked with some creative time keeping to keep her under the 80 hour work week. About 70% of my med school classmates that did that also had pretty to extremely bad experiences.
