Ranking programs... by program director. =p

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Disclaimer: This is in the order of my ROL, so it reflects a ranking actually by program. I do not intend to be ranking people. The motivation was to simply share how awesome these PDs were- I truly enjoyed meeting everyone of them. Tremendous mentors for anyone lucky enough to be in their program.

Felicia Smith. New program director for MGH McLean, taking over for past president of the American Association of Directors of Psychiatry Residency Training (AADPRT) Kathy Sanders. Felicia is a really warm and thoughtful person. Her first recruiting class, she took the time to meet every single applicant. She is a former grad, director of MGH's APS for a few years before becoming APD, and then taking a turn working in Vermont. An advocate for minority mental health, detail-oriented and experienced with the residency program, and a warm person makers her, per another PD, a ROCK SOLID PD.

Ron Rieder. A hero to many PDs in the Northeast, simply because he was recruited from Columbia as their former PD and given a "golden package" to change residency education at Mount Sinai for five years. He has decided to commit for another four years at least, nurturing his most ambitious residency education project- an NIMH-funded PhD for psychiatry residents. Savvy, upfront, and a grandfather at heart... he is one of the shining bright stars among the leadership of Mount Sinai.

Carol Bernstein. Former president of the APA. Over a decades experience as PD. She is single-handedly running NYU's program as sole PD, after the PD and APD from the last few years unexpectedly quit early in the interview season. Warm, supportive, and a real mother bear to her 14 crazy residents that decided to try taming the wildness of Bellevue.

Richard Summers. UPenn. A renowned psychoanalyst, Past President of the American Association of Directors of Psychiatry Residency Training (AADPRT) and chairs committees of the American Psychoanalytic Association. Tremendously warm and supportive, with a more mellow recruitment style compared to his NYC counterpart Ron Rieder.

Deborah Cowley. Simply one of the program directors that is easy to talk to... with a very west coast hands-off style that is surprising welcoming and supportive.

Rohrbaugh, Yale.

Marshall Forstein, Cambridge.

Alan Louie, formerly San Mateo, now Stanford.

Benjamin Sheldon, UMass.

Sidney Zisook, UCSD.


All ten above are career psychiatry teachers and educators, some younger and motivated while others are older and more experienced. And at the core, they are all tremendously wonderful thoughtful and supportive people to have met on the interview trail.
 
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I normally don't get into rankings and I love Felicia and I'm ranking MgH first but this is outright disrespectful. Lets not rank people here. There are career PDs on this list that would see this and be outright offended.
 
Agree with LR. Curious how folks would feel if PDs decided to go ahead and rank applicants publicly.
 
Agree with LR. Curious how folks would feel if PDs decided to go ahead and rank applicants publicly.

I apologize. Just to clarify. Not a ranking. But I wanted to share my experience meeting ten program directors that I would want everyone else to meet. These were also some of the best folks to give me advice on choosing the right program fit, while on the interview trail.

I normally don't get into rankings and I love Felicia and I'm ranking MgH first but this is outright disrespectful. Lets not rank people here. There are career PDs on this list that would see this and be outright offended.

Apologies. I meant to not rank people, but to give a shout-out to some of my most memorable interactions and interviews this season.
 
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Your thread topic is misleading then, even with your disclaimer. I agree with the above posters, feels a bit disrespectful.
 
No worries, member2721. I don't think anyone thought there was any malicious intent. I just think in general posting information or impressions of non-public domain individuals on the Internet is bad form.
 
I think its time for everyone to take a vacation until Match Day! This is a stressful time, I don't think he/she meant any harm. 😀
 
This thread is a little ball-washy. Can we keep our love affairs to ourselves?
 
what a bizarre thread for all sorts of reasons not including that the PD at Umass is Sheldon benjamin not benjamin sheldon, that Alan Louie is not a PD at Stanford, that some of these people have only been in the job a few months, and it is quite impossible to make an assessment of whether someone is a good PD from a meeting during interview season. Just because someone can sell you snake oil, doesn't mean they're necessarily a good PD, nor does not being able to do make someone a bad PD. I was not particularly impressed one way or the other by the meeting of my future PD on the interview trail last year, but they have bent over backwards to accommodate all my requests and nurture my interests. they have literally put their money where their mouth is in terms of committing financially to the various projects I have proposed. I would not know any of this if I weren't a resident in this program.

And the reality is whilst having a good PD is helpful, as long as they're not toxic it probably has little bearing on your overall residency experience. I hate my current rotation (am off service) it's ****ing awful i hate the people im working with etc - most people have some sort of negative experience during intern year and really these are all things that your PD has little or no control over. As evinced by the list above, PDs come and go unexpectedly all the time, it would be a mistake for this to be a major factor in ranking where you want to go.
 
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And the reality is whilst having a good PD is helpful, as long as they're not toxic it probably has little bearing on your overall residency experience. PDs come and go unexpectedly all the time, it would be a mistake for this to be a major factor in ranking where you want to go.


You make a good point. PDs are way overweighted in how applicants rank programs.

But the truth of the matter is, when another PD talks bad about a program, they tend to be about two things:

1. A new program Director
2. Location.


But honestly guys, chill the f*** out, this thread does not say a single bad thing about any of the program directors I mentioned. They are all awesome, because they care about educating and nurturing psychiatry residents year in and year out.
 
No worries, member2721. I don't think anyone thought there was any malicious intent. I just think in general posting information or impressions of non-public domain individuals on the Internet is bad form.

i think the appropriate way to do this thread is to list experiences about psych faculty during the process of matching into a residency. no judging or ranking

i would love to hear everyone's experiences
 
For the most part, the top places on my ROL were also the places where I really got along well with the PD.

The exception to that was St. Luke's Roosevelt. The PD was great, and I was impressed by his level of transparency. I ranked them lower because they don't do a lot of research.
 
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