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Really USC? September 29th and you ask me if I have any research experience, honors, dental experience, community involvement, extracurricular activities, cultural experience, talents, hobbies, accomplishments, and interests?

At least other schools ATTEMPTED to sound differently than EXACTLY what we all spent so much time perfecting on our aadsas. At least ask us why we specifically want to attend USC (The one supplemental question I find justified). Don't get me wrong I'm happy I got an interview, but come on...not exactly the best start of faculty competence in my eyes.

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Haven't reviewed my packet yet. Will do this weekend, but I wouldn't really be too concerned about it. The interview will weigh much more than what is written.

Tell them why you want USC then!
 
Are you sure you want to go to a school named after a condom?
 
Really USC? September 29th and you ask me if I have any research experience, honors, dental experience, community involvement, extracurricular activities, cultural experience, talents, hobbies, accomplishments, and interests?

At least other schools ATTEMPTED to sound differently than EXACTLY what we all spent so much time perfecting on our aadsas. At least ask us why we specifically want to attend USC (The one supplemental question I find justified). Don't get me wrong I'm happy I got an interview, but come on...not exactly the best start of faculty competence in my eyes.

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LOOK, this is not an anomaly: it's actually how the school is run on a continual basis! Unbelievable, I know.

When I went to the interview and they did their presentation on the overhead, there were several misspellings...I've NEVER seen such recklessness in my life. They were on just basic words too, nothing too mind-rattling.

During orientation week, SAME THING, misspellings.

I figured that these are just the administrative people. I figured the "big dogs" (i.e faculty/professors) would be different. NOPE! Not the case. It's just the frequency the school is on. The culture of the school, if you will.

This was the reality of the entire time I was at USC dental. No Joke. Again you won't believe this. I don't expect you to. I wouldn't have believed anyone who would have told me that a graduate institution, especially the name USC, could be run so slopply... too hard to believe given the associations I've been taught and my experiences with higher education institutions. If someone were talking about some Caribbean degree mill, I'd believe it. But USC? I'd think somebody had major smoke up their ass. In that sense it's like an out-of-body experience in a way, something that is just unbelievable until YOU EXPERIENCE IT. Just unrealistic, yet actually exists!
 
LOOK, this is not an anomaly: it's actually how the school is run on a continual basis! Unbelievable, I know.

When I went to the interview and they did their presentation on the overhead, there were several misspellings...I've NEVER seen such recklessness in my life. They were on just basic words too, nothing too mind-rattling.

During orientation week, SAME THING, misspellings.

I figured that these are just the administrative people. I figured the "big dogs" (i.e faculty/professors) would be different. NOPE! Not the case. It's just the frequency the school is on. The culture of the school, if you will.

This was the reality of the entire time I was at USC dental. No Joke. Again you won't believe this. I don't expect you to. I wouldn't have believed anyone who would have told me that a graduate institution, especially the name USC, could be run so slopply... too hard to believe given the associations I've been taught and my experiences with higher education institutions. If someone were talking about some Caribbean degree mill, I'd believe it. But USC? I'd think somebody had major smoke up their ass. In that sense it's like an out-of-body experience in a way, something that is just unbelievable until YOU EXPERIENCE IT. Just unrealistic, yet actually exists!

Someone is taking out their anger for being kicked out of their first year
 
Someone is taking out their anger for being kicked out of their first year

OK..then go to USC. Have fun 🙂

Hopefully the people that I PM'ed 6 months ago--long before I got kicked out--will come forward. I said the same thing to them LONG BEFORE I EVER GOT KICKED OUT.

You could also see how I regularly bumped up the "don't go to USC" thread MONTHS AGO.

Of course I didn't explicitly write "bump" but in effect that was what I was doing...why would a student going there ask the question that I asked? It was BS to bump the thread up.

There's a code of silence there. So while going there I could not talk about except through PM. I've had a number of people stop me in the hallways and tell me that they hate it. But the same people will say the opposite when others are around.

Seriously go to USC. LOL!
 
OK..then go to USC. Have fun 🙂

Hopefully the people that I PM'ed 6 months ago--long before I got kicked out--will come forward. I said the same thing to them LONG BEFORE I EVER GOT KICKED OUT.

You could also see how I regularly bumped up the "don't go to USC" thread MONTHS AGO.

Of course I didn't explicitly write "bump" but in effect that was what I was doing...why would a student going there ask the question that I asked? It was BS to bump the thread up.

There's a code of silence there. So while going there I could not talk about except through PM. I've had a number of people stop me in the hallways and tell me that they hate it. But the same people will say the opposite when others are around.

Seriously go to USC. LOL!

I actually did apply to USC but just because it's an "easy school" (based on their high tuition cost) and to serve as a "safety" and frankly, I have a school I like more that is cheaper AND has better reviews so even if I did get an acceptance at USC I may not even take it.

With that said, not just from you, there have been a number of mixed reviews about USC, from people loving the school to people despising it with a passion. Whatever the reason is, you can't tell me being kicked out doesn't affect your opinion at all. Sorry, didn't mean to be rude and I know it is probably a sensitive topic, was just trying to be playful
 
Someone is taking out their anger for being kicked out of their first year

wow

this is what you said you were doing: 😉😛

this is what you were doing: :poke:

not cool bro.
 
LOOK, this is not an anomaly: it's actually how the school is run on a continual basis! Unbelievable, I know.

When I went to the interview and they did their presentation on the overhead, there were several misspellings...I've NEVER seen such recklessness in my life. They were on just basic words too, nothing too mind-rattling.

During orientation week, SAME THING, misspellings.

I figured that these are just the administrative people. I figured the "big dogs" (i.e faculty/professors) would be different. NOPE! Not the case. It's just the frequency the school is on. The culture of the school, if you will.

This was the reality of the entire time I was at USC dental. No Joke. Again you won't believe this. I don't expect you to. I wouldn't have believed anyone who would have told me that a graduate institution, especially the name USC, could be run so slopply... too hard to believe given the associations I've been taught and my experiences with higher education institutions. If someone were talking about some Caribbean degree mill, I'd believe it. But USC? I'd think somebody had major smoke up their ass. In that sense it's like an out-of-body experience in a way, something that is just unbelievable until YOU EXPERIENCE IT. Just unrealistic, yet actually exists!

Can you elaborate on why you were kicked out? And what happens now? Can you reapply to dental school?
 
I wouldn't mind finding out what is so wrong, or bad, with USC...

I have 4 interviews with USC being one of them. I have heard differing opinions about the PBL, some like it, some don't.

I also heard good things in that they stick a drill in your hand on the first day and its heavy on clinical. Which I can't imagine being bad, or is it?

I have also reviewed a thread where the guy was crying about getting assigned seating. Sorry, but that's trivial and doesn't seem like enough to complain about.

So..... What is it that makes it so awfully bad to some?

Thanks!
 
I hope everyone takes what this kid says with a grain of salt. I don't know him personally, but as it is extremely difficult to be kicked out of USC, he was the talk of the school for a while...especially considering he emailed the entire school, excluding his own class, a copy of all of his grades (which were horrible) and pictures of his pre-clinical projects (which were equally horrible). SC holds really strict standards when it comes to clinical work, which can be incredibly frustrating at times; they also make every effort to get you up to standard to pass if you do fail. I squeezed by and never had to remediate any courses, but from what my classmates have said, remediation is a blessing in disguise...they basically offer you personalized tutoring free of charge. Anyway, this kid managed to remediate every class he took, and then even failed remediation. On top of that, he failed anatomy. I understand that hand skills take a long time to develop and some are quicker than others, but anatomy is straight up memorization. He seemed to make it obvious to everyone from the start that he didn't want to be at USC and was completely unmotivated...which is really the only way you fail anatomy (well, some people get whigged out by cadavers too, but you catch my drift.) I don't know him and I don't know what his problem was, but he was against the school from the beginning (as he made quite evident in his own post...seriously, making such a huge deal about a spelling error?) He can slam SC all he wants, but they're getting the last laugh...they got 100 grand of his cash and he'll never be a dentist.

As for USC, I think the cost and PBL are the reasons for its mixed reviews. I personally never liked PBL. I don't really know too many people that like sitting in a lecture all day either, but at least it's more cost effective. All I know is I passed my part 1s without too much effort, so I must have learned something from it. Either way, anyone can learn biochem by reading a book...clinic is where the real magic happens, and that is where SC shines. I'm not familiar with other school's pre-clinical schedules, but at USC you are holding a drill by day 1. PBL is only down to 2 half-days a week with a few other lectures interspersed, and otherwise, you're in the sim lab working on your hand skills. Once you make it to the clinic, you're confident and ready to work on the real thing. On the floor, the docs are very helpful and knowledgeable, and there is at least 1 per 8 students. I say at least because normally all chairs in the section are not filled and/or another doc or resident will hang around to help out.

Overall, I really didn't like SC much my first two years. I wasn't a fan of PBL and pre-clinical was TOUGH...it's no fun spending every weekend in the sim lab practicing on plastic teeth just to repeatedly fail. But they are tough on you for a reason, and it all pays off when you get to clinic. Now that I'm there and seeing the fruits of my labors, I'm pretty happy with the school. That's just my opinion, but I think it's fairly reflective of how most of my class feels. Hope this helps.

BTW, my husband and I share an SDN account...he's the one who's applying now with the predents account, in case anyone's confused.
 
I hope everyone takes what this kid says with a grain of salt. I don't know him personally, but as it is extremely difficult to be kicked out of USC, he was the talk of the school for a while...especially considering he emailed the entire school, excluding his own class, a copy of all of his grades (which were horrible) and pictures of his pre-clinical projects (which were equally horrible). SC holds really strict standards when it comes to clinical work, which can be incredibly frustrating at times; they also make every effort to get you up to standard to pass if you do fail. I squeezed by and never had to remediate any courses, but from what my classmates have said, remediation is a blessing in disguise...they basically offer you personalized tutoring free of charge. Anyway, this kid managed to remediate every class he took, and then even failed remediation. On top of that, he failed anatomy. I understand that hand skills take a long time to develop and some are quicker than others, but anatomy is straight up memorization. He seemed to make it obvious to everyone from the start that he didn't want to be at USC and was completely unmotivated...which is really the only way you fail anatomy (well, some people get whigged out by cadavers too, but you catch my drift.) I don't know him and I don't know what his problem was, but he was against the school from the beginning (as he made quite evident in his own post...seriously, making such a huge deal about a spelling error?) He can slam SC all he wants, but they're getting the last laugh...they got 100 grand of his cash and he'll never be a dentist.

As for USC, I think the cost and PBL are the reasons for its mixed reviews. I personally never liked PBL. I don't really know too many people that like sitting in a lecture all day either, but at least it's more cost effective. All I know is I passed my part 1s without too much effort, so I must have learned something from it. Either way, anyone can learn biochem by reading a book...clinic is where the real magic happens, and that is where SC shines. I'm not familiar with other school's pre-clinical schedules, but at USC you are holding a drill by day 1. PBL is only down to 2 half-days a week with a few other lectures interspersed, and otherwise, you're in the sim lab working on your hand skills. Once you make it to the clinic, you're confident and ready to work on the real thing. On the floor, the docs are very helpful and knowledgeable, and there is at least 1 per 8 students. I say at least because normally all chairs in the section are not filled and/or another doc or resident will hang around to help out.

Overall, I really didn't like SC much my first two years. I wasn't a fan of PBL and pre-clinical was TOUGH...it's no fun spending every weekend in the sim lab practicing on plastic teeth just to repeatedly fail. But they are tough on you for a reason, and it all pays off when you get to clinic. Now that I'm there and seeing the fruits of my labors, I'm pretty happy with the school. That's just my opinion, but I think it's fairly reflective of how most of my class feels. Hope this helps.

BTW, my husband and I share an SDN account...he's the one who's applying now with the predents account, in case anyone's confused.

Thanks for sharing the low down on this young chap.

However, USC didn't necessarily get the last laugh. Even though this dude wasted a good $100K which totally sucks for him, USC lost out on the $300K it would have collected had he graduated. Now there's an empty seat that won't be filled and USC is $300K poorer. More importantly, if this dude sucked so bad to have gotten axed, then how could admissions err so badly in their evaluation as an applicant? It sounds like he had no business even getting an interview.
 
Thanks for sharing the low down on this young chap.

However, USC didn't necessarily get the last laugh. Even though this dude wasted a good $100K which totally sucks for him, USC lost out on the $300K it would have collected had he graduated. Now there's an empty seat that won't be filled and USC is $300K poorer. More importantly, if this dude sucked so bad to have gotten axed, then how could admissions err so badly in their evaluation as an applicant? It sounds like he had no business even getting an interview.

USC doesn't even do 1-on-1 interviews.
 
Thanks for sharing the low down on this young chap.

However, USC didn't necessarily get the last laugh. Even though this dude wasted a good $100K which totally sucks for him, USC lost out on the $300K it would have collected had he graduated. Now there's an empty seat that won't be filled and USC is $300K poorer. More importantly, if this dude sucked so bad to have gotten axed, then how could admissions err so badly in their evaluation as an applicant? It sounds like he had no business even getting an interview.

Totally agree. No one wants to see anyone drop out...which is why it rarely happens. The interview process is imperfect anywhere...some amazing candidates are completely overlooked and kids like this make it in. Either way, you make a good point on your own...USC could easily have let him slide, collected their tuition, and graduated him; in fact, he begged and pleaded for them to let him re-do his first year, which could have made them an extra 100K. Instead, they decided to uphold their standards and ditched a kid that was obviously unworthy of a degree from USC.
 
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