Reapply this year or take a gap year?

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miasdontwork

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Fourth time applying
3.82GPA 3.85sGPA
29 MCAT in fall 2013, studying to retake June 2nd
150 hours cadaver dissection lab
150ish hours anatomy lab intern
200 hours tutoring science courses
100 hours of volunteering at the hospital handing out puzzle books and talking to patients
60 hours nursing home volunteering
30-40 hours shadowing various specialties
One summer full time soil research which resulted in a publication
One year full time phlebotomy
Full time EMT since January

Previous years I was declined, because I didn't have clinical experience, as well as bad interviews the first year and this year (3rd).

Reapply this year or wait a year?
 
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I would skip this year and take the gap year to retake the MCAT as you're doing, continue working as an EMT, and really bone up on your other ECs. 60 hours of volunteering is critically low, for example.
 
Yeah like @bananafish94 said.. I have already have 88 hours of volunteering as a Freshman/Part-Time college. It would help to buff up your volunteering hours, continue working as an EMT. And, like said the MCAT. Good luck.
 
Where did you apply this cycle ? Where did you interview? State of residence ?

I filled out secondaries to UND SMHS, USD SSOM, and Carver Medical School.

Rejected at Carver pre-interview, invited to interview at UND and USD, and rejected from both. Communication skills were cited as the reason for UND, and I knew my interview went equally poorly at USD.

State of residence is SD.
 
I would skip this year and take the gap year to retake the MCAT as you're doing, continue working as an EMT, and really bone up on your other ECs. 60 hours of volunteering is critically low, for example.
I did forget to mention 100 hours of volunteering at the hospital handing out puzzle books and talking to patients.

What other ECs would you recommend working on?
 
I filled out secondaries to UND SMHS, USD SSOM, and Carver Medical School.

Rejected at Carver pre-interview, invited to interview at UND and USD, and rejected from both. Communication skills were cited as the reason for UND, and I knew my interview went equally poorly at USD.

State of residence is SD.
It appears from the feedback you received that you need coaching on your interview skills. Applying to only 3 schools with your MCAT score is also not a good application strategy. Consider applying to OOS private schools such as:
Quinnipiac
Albany
New York Medical College
Drexel
Temple
Jefferson
Oakland Beaumont
Rosalind Franklin
Creighton
Any new private schools that open (Roseman, Henricopolis, Seton Hall, etc.)
Since you are a 4th time applicant you should seriously consider applying to DO schools and apply to at least 20 and you should receive several interviews with your stats.
 
If you apply very broadly (and can afford to) you could possibly snag an MD acceptance with those stats. You're also very competitive for DO.
 
State of residence is SD.

In South Dakota, if a 3.85/29 applicant cant get an acceptance after three entire cycles that is revealing something is rather off. Because in South Dakota these are above average stats for MD matriculants and those who have above average stats in a state with so few applicants usually get in just fine.

So why arent you part of that successful crowd? It's becoming clearer to see after reading this

a) The interviews. Clearly they are tanking you if a school is telling you that to your face which they often wont even if the interviews are in fact tanking you. In other words, they are a significant problem. If a school told you after your first app cycle your interviews went poorly and then again on your 3rd, it shows you arent really improving the way you need to and learning the lessons you need to. Not ideal

b) Your ECs havent been doing you many favors. It sounds like you are just now becoming an EMT and phlebotomist so only now you are getting clinical exp. In other words, each of these 3 cycles when you applied you didnt have significant clinical exp. This is on top of a lack of non clinical based service and volunteering which is problematic. Not a good combination. Nothing sticks out about your ECs or portrays you in a compelling manner. That's again not ideal for a 4th time applicant.

c) Another thing to consider:
I believe Sanford has specific requirements they look for such as "going to high school in SD" to get "points" which is usually what it takes to get in as an IS resident. Is there anything in your app that might cause you to not get these "points" people from SD usually need such as not going to high school in SD? Not the highest priority factor here certainly, but something at least worth double checking on.

Going forward as a 4th time reapplicant there is a clear stigma. There comes a point where schools assume the problem is with you when you have to keep reapplying. A 4th time applicant brings risk and has stigma attached to them. I wouldnt reapply until you are convinced you have best fixed your deficits the best way you can. If that means waiting until summer 2017, so be it. Consider DO schools. Out of 166 SD applicants, only 9 matriculated OOS and those that a number probably either got into top 20 schools or big scholarship money. You arent a candidate for either so while it's worth trying some OOS MD schools, your odds are by and large tied to whether you get into SD or ND to a fair extent. OOS MD schools know those in the Dakotas rarely will leave their state unless its for those special cases.

In short, fix what's broken not reapplying with the same deficits. Your stats are clearly fine for your state school, ND as well as DO programs. But when you strike out with clear deficits for 3 straight app cycles, it requires a clear change in approach and that usually doesnt come overnight and its worth taking the time to wait to let that change develop before reapplying. Good luck.
 
In South Dakota, if a 3.85/29 applicant cant get an acceptance after three entire cycles that is revealing something is rather off. Because in South Dakota these are above average stats for MD matriculants and those who have above average stats in a state with so few applicants usually get in just fine.

So why arent you part of that successful crowd? It's becoming clearer to see after reading this

a) The interviews. Clearly they are tanking you if a school is telling you that to your face which they often wont even if the interviews are in fact tanking you. In other words, they are a significant problem. If a school told you after your first app cycle your interviews went poorly and then again on your 3rd, it shows you arent really improving the way you need to and learning the lessons you need to. Not ideal

b) Your ECs havent been doing you many favors. It sounds like you are just now becoming an EMT and phlebotomist so only now you are getting clinical exp. In other words, each of these 3 cycles when you applied you didnt have significant clinical exp. This is on top of a lack of non clinical based service and volunteering which is problematic. Not a good combination. Nothing sticks out about your ECs or portrays you in a compelling manner. That's again not ideal for a 4th time applicant.

c) Another thing to consider:
I believe Sanford has specific requirements they look for such as "going to high school in SD" to get "points" which is usually what it takes to get in as an IS resident. Is there anything in your app that might cause you to not get these "points" people from SD usually need such as not going to high school in SD? Not the highest priority factor here certainly, but something at least worth double checking on.

Going forward as a 4th time reapplicant there is a clear stigma. There comes a point where schools assume the problem is with you when you have to keep reapplying. A 4th time applicant brings risk and has stigma attached to them. I wouldnt reapply until you are convinced you have best fixed your deficits the best way you can. If that means waiting until summer 2017, so be it. Consider DO schools. Out of 166 SD applicants, only 9 matriculated OOS and those that a number probably either got into top 20 schools or big scholarship money. You arent a candidate for either so while it's worth trying some OOS MD schools, your odds are by and large tied to whether you get into SD or ND to a fair extent. OOS MD schools know those in the Dakotas rarely will leave their state unless its for those special cases.

In short, fix what's broken not reapplying with the same deficits. Your stats are clearly fine for your state school, ND as well as DO programs. But when you strike out with clear deficits for 3 straight app cycles, it requires a clear change in approach and that usually doesnt come overnight and its worth taking the time to wait to let that change develop before reapplying. Good luck.

First thing, thanks for the help.

I will see how the MCAT goes and pursue medical volunteering and interview training ASAP. Then I will gauge whether I'm ready or not.

Also I graduated from a SD high school.
 
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