Research heavy but lower tier?

[Youngm2194]

Does anyone know of schools of the top of their head that are big about research but are not like hopkins, yale, stanford, harvard, etc.? I know all schools appreciate research, but I'm wondering which ones care about it more besides these top tier schools. With a 515, 3.35 (huge upward), first author pub, and 3 different research jobs I'm trying to find schools that I have a shot at and that having this research will benefit me more than other schools, but obviously with my stats I'm not applying to these top places as its a waste of money.

thanks for the help

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[eteshoe]

I only know the midwest, south and east coast (very rough list) - by lower tier, I assume somewhere in the 20-50 range (I can't remember past that w/o looking up)

Midwest: OSU, Case Western, UW-Madison, Cincinnati, IU
South: Baylor College of Medicine, UNC-CH, Emory, UTSW, UF
East: UVa, BU, Dartmouth, Tufts

 

[CowboyNiceguy]

I only know the midwest, south and east coast (very rough list) - by lower tier, I assume somewhere in the 20-50 range (I can't remember past that w/o looking up)

Midwest: OSU, Case Western, UW-Madison, Cincinnati, IU
South: Baylor College of Medicine, UNC-CH, Emory, UTSW, UF
East: UVa, BU, Dartmouth, Tufts

I don't think you can call 20-50 "lower tier" when there are 141 MD schools. I would call that upper mid.

 

[eteshoe]

I don't think you can call 20-50 "lower tier" when there are 141 MD schools. I would call that upper mid.

lol I guess you're right. I really didn't consider schools ranked lower than ~50 since I wanted to go to a top research school but it really depends on the perspective of the person's career goals.

 

[Okazaki Frag Grenade]

I think Virginia Tech Carilion is pretty research focused. Although their class size is like 50 people so it's quite competitive from a numbers perspective

 

[XxThaDoggxX]

I think Virginia Tech Carilion is pretty research focused. Although their class size is like 50 people so it's quite competitive from a numbers perspective

This. I think they are trying to become the premier MD research college in the state. My former Alma mater...from what I heard almost everyone that got accepted last year had some pretty impressive prior research.

 

[The Knife & Gun Club]

I think Virginia Tech Carilion is pretty research focused. Although their class size is like 50 people so it's quite competitive from a numbers perspective

This. I think they are trying to become the premier MD research college in the state. My former Alma mater...from what I heard almost everyone that got accepted last year had some pretty impressive prior research.

Yea VTC is going to be a research powerhouse soon. From what I understand they offer at least a partial scholarship to every accepted student as well in order to be more competitive.

University of Florida is also a very strong research school, although being a state school it isn't cheap OOS.

Miami also great clinical research (but not great basic science) from what I understand.

Edit: one more, Hofstra I've heard has good research but I can't speak from experience

 

[Law2Doc]

There are no accepted "tiers". The proxy for prestige that people like to peg to is the US News research rankings, which we all agree is imperfect for most purposes. But since research funding directly contributes to those rankings you can actually see pretty directly which places have more of an interest in research than others. So I don't get the question -- the higher up on that list a program is, the more research heavy it is. Why try to recreate the wheel with "tiers"?

 

[The Knife & Gun Club]

There are no accepted "tiers". The proxy for prestige that people like to peg to is the US News research rankings, which we all agree is imperfect for most purposes. But since research funding directly contributes to those rankings you can actually see pretty directly which places have more of an interest in research than others. So I don't get the question -- the higher up on that list a program is, the more research heavy it is. Why try to recreate the wheel with "tiers"?

I think op is using "tiers" as a misnomer for competitiveness. The app profile suggests OP is looking for a school that is relatively uncompetitive but will give more weight than average to his research experience.

If that is the case I'd suggest looking closely at private schools since they tend to be bigger fans of research experience that publics (HUUUUGE generalizations)

 

[Lawpy]

There are no accepted "tiers". The proxy for prestige that people like to peg to is the US News research rankings, which we all agree is imperfect for most purposes. But since research funding directly contributes to those rankings you can actually see pretty directly which places have more of an interest in research than others. So I don't get the question -- the higher up on that list a program is, the more research heavy it is. Why try to recreate the wheel with "tiers"?

I think op is using "tiers" as a misnomer for competitiveness. The app profile suggests OP is looking for a school that is relatively uncompetitive but will give more weight than average to his research experience.

If that is the case I'd suggest looking closely at private schools since they tend to be bigger fans of research experience that publics (HUUUUGE generalizations)

I like the @WedgeDawg Tiers used in the Applicant Rating System.

 

[avgn]

Buy MSAR, sort by GPA median (the limiting factor here), look up USNWR rankings, check out location. Prioritize private over public (I think this is accurate generalization at this tier of school) Also look at the % of students involved in research on MSAR at the school. Should be easy to identify 25-30 targets for you to apply to

 

[Goro]

MSAR Online can tell you how much extramural $ each school gets. An example is U Penn >>>>> Temple > Jefferson, Penn State, >> Drexel.

Does anyone know of schools of the top of their head that are big about research but are not like hopkins, yale, stanford, harvard, etc.? I know all schools appreciate research, but I'm wondering which ones care about it more besides these top tier schools. With a 515, 3.35 (huge upward), first author pub, and 3 different research jobs I'm trying to find schools that I have a shot at and that having this research will benefit me more than other schools, but obviously with my stats I'm not applying to these top places as its a waste of money.

thanks for the help