Residency question

[Hala Alsofi]

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Hi,


My cousin is going to be starting medical school next September. After He graduates (either 4 / 5 yrs down the line, depending on which course he ends up on) He would like to move to the states and practice there. I understand that there are a lot of certificates and things which he need, and I also u nderstand that he needs to gain entry to a residenc programme. What I'm wondering is whether anything which he does at this point (which med school he goes to, etc) will make a major difference to his chances of being accepted on a residency programme - a good one.


Is there anything he can do to make himself a better candidate?



Realistically, what are the chances of getting onto a good residency programme? I understand this varies with speciality... I've not yet been able to find statistics on which specialities are easier / harder. I see him (probably) going into something like neurology/neurosurgery, or maybe psychiatry.


It sounds to me lke the application process is fairly complicated and probably fairly expensive - is this true?


It'd be great to hear from anyone in the UK who is currently going through the process of applying, or who has been through it.


Thanks,


Hala Alsofi

 

[getdown]

Hi,


My cousin is going to be starting medical school next September. After He graduates (either 4 / 5 yrs down the line, depending on which course he ends up on) He would like to move to the states and practice there. I understand that there are a lot of certificates and things which he need, and I also u nderstand that he needs to gain entry to a residenc programme. What I'm wondering is whether anything which he does at this point (which med school he goes to, etc) will make a major difference to his chances of being accepted on a residency programme - a good one.


Is there anything he can do to make himself a better candidate?



Realistically, what are the chances of getting onto a good residency programme? I understand this varies with speciality... I've not yet been able to find statistics on which specialities are easier / harder. I see him (probably) going into something like neurology/neurosurgery, or maybe psychiatry.


It sounds to me lke the application process is fairly complicated and probably fairly expensive - is this true?


It'd be great to hear from anyone in the UK who is currently going through the process of applying, or who has been through it.


Thanks,


Hala Alsofi

The only answer you need at this time is that if he's not an American medical graduate his chances of matching into ANY residency program let alone a good one is pretty low. The only way he can remedy that is by going to an American medical school but seeing as that's not possible there's not much that can help him except perseverance, specialty choice and luck.

He may have chances at getting neurology and psychiatry but neurosurgery? Although not impossible, it pretty much is to any foreign medical graduate.

He would need very high marks on STEPs 1 and 2.
I dont' know what school he's going to in UK but some schools may have better traction in placing their graduates.

 

[Hala Alsofi]

The only answer you need at this time is that if he's not an American medical graduate his chances of matching into ANY residency program let alone a good one is pretty low. The only way he can remedy that is by going to an American medical school but seeing as that's not possible there's not much that can help him except perseverance, specialty choice and luck.

He may have chances at getting neurology and psychiatry but neurosurgery? Although not impossible, it pretty much is to any foreign medical graduate.

He would need very high marks on STEPs 1 and 2.
I dont' know what school he's going to in UK but some schools may have better traction in placing their graduates.

He went to a good medical school here in London, it seems that he really has a low chance... Thank you anyway.

 

[AliBabaMD]

As long as it is a medical school listed in World Health Org, the rest doesn't matter. He needs to do decent on USMLE, as in pass, and then distinguish himself. PM me if you have any further questions.

AB

 

[getdown]

As long as it is a medical school listed in World Health Org, the rest doesn't matter. He needs to do decent on USMLE, as in pass, and then distinguish himself. PM me if you have any further questions.

AB

You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You just joined today and looking at the crap you posted, it's utter nonsense. Don't take shelf until ready? Really? You don't have a ****ing choice. The school determines when the shelf exams are. Take STEP 2 before 1? What in the hell are you talking about? You can't even register for 2 if you don't take STEP 1. And yes, for an IMG your STEP scores matter a whole lot more than whatever podcast or invention you do. You think residency directors give a **** about the nonsense you suggested? What the hell are your qualifications? Are you even a doctor?

 

[Chibucks15]

As long as it is a medical school listed in World Health Org, the rest doesn't matter. He needs to do decent on USMLE, as in pass, and then distinguish himself. PM me if you have any further questions.

AB

You're giving terrible and dangerous advice

 

[AliBabaMD]

You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You just joined today and looking at the crap you posted, it's utter nonsense. Don't take shelf until ready? Really? You don't have a ****ing choice. The school determines when the shelf exams are. Take STEP 2 before 1? What in the hell are you talking about? You can't even register for 2 if you don't take STEP 1. And yes, for an IMG your STEP scores matter a whole lot more than whatever podcast or invention you do. You think residency directors give a **** about the nonsense you suggested? What the hell are your qualifications? Are you even a doctor?

Are you really an attending physician with your lack of a respectful tone and decorum? You might as well be a janitor if you can't speak in a civil way.

Two points: Step scores do matter, but they are not everything. For IMGs or US grads. You can take Step 2 before Step 1, and your ignorance blows my mind. Many students, including grads from foreign countries, take this route because that exam is closer to their clinicals than Step 1 material. I will leave the rest of your hateful response without a response.

 

[AliBabaMD]

You're giving terrible and dangerous advice

Some medical schools listed in WHO are accepted by all states. Some are not. None of the advice I gave is dangerous. Your suggestion is pure nonsense

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Some medical schools listed in WHO are accepted by all states. Some are not. None of the advice I gave is dangerous. Your suggestion is pure nonsense

Oh nice, now you're over here trolling. The ban hammer shall come quickly methinks

 

[AliBabaMD]

Oh nice, now you're over here trolling. The ban hammer shall come quickly methinks

Thank you for threatening me now for the second time with getting me banned. For what exactly? Because I give "dangerous advice." But you do create a climate of fear and you are truly a person without the dignity of a response.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

But you do create a climate of fear and you are truly a person without the dignity of a response.

What?

 

[ParallelLines]

I have a family member who came from moverseas and took Step 2 before 1, so @AliBabaMD is at least correct on that account.

 

[Chibucks15]

Thank you for threatening me now for the second time with getting me banned. For what exactly? Because I give "dangerous advice." But you do create a climate of fear and you are truly a person without the dignity of a response.

its dangerous because it can lead people to believe things that are just not true, or extremely extremely unlikely. this can cause them to spend thousands of dollars most of us don't have, and/or cause big problems later on in terms of life plans. If you know IMGs, then stick there, but don't go telling people grades and board scores don't matter at all like you have been on other threads. With that I'll let AnatomyGrey take over

 

[CyrusHabs7695]

What?

You create a climate of fear bro

 

[sella.turcica]

You have no idea what the hell you're talking about. You just joined today and looking at the crap you posted, it's utter nonsense. Don't take shelf until ready? Really? You don't have a ****ing choice. The school determines when the shelf exams are. Take STEP 2 before 1? What in the hell are you talking about? You can't even register for 2 if you don't take STEP 1. And yes, for an IMG your STEP scores matter a whole lot more than whatever podcast or invention you do. You think residency directors give a **** about the nonsense you suggested? What the hell are your qualifications? Are you even a doctor?

Chill, dude.

 

[Mad Jack]

He went to a good medical school here in London, it seems that he really has a low chance... Thank you anyway.

Some of the better London schools do well in placing their graduates in US residencies. His chances aren't great, but they are far from zero.

 

[mrbreakfast]

The overall non-US IMG match rate for 2018 was 53%, but is much lower for many specialties.

The non-US IMGs at my home program (mostly in IM and neurology) had Step scores in the 250s-260s.