Residency

[Burnt_toast]

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So I am very excited that I was able to change residencies and get a residency spot this year given how brutal the match seems to have been, particularly since I am switching into a different field. I don't want to disclose where I"m going or what specialty I am switching into to my PD. I have already provided my official resignation. The PD keeps asking me, and I try to be polite and all but don't want to disclose this. I keep feeling pressured into this. I know that the program is not particularly happy about me leaving, but I was honest, appropriate, upfront and professional with my resignation and have given them months of notice. Im looking for suggestions on how to best deal with this?

Also on a different note, based on my "matched" NRMP email, I am figuring that I matched at one of 3 programs on my ROL, and the other 10 are unlikely possibilities given that they were advanced. That means I either matched to my #1 which would be awsome, or dropped down really low on my list - like 8 or 9. If I do end up as low as 8 or 9 on my list, would it be appropriate/reasonable to contact some PDs and ask them about this? It would just seem sooo incredibly odd for me to have dropped so low down on my list in the case that I did not get my #1. I have never matched lower than 3 in the past. Thoughts on this?

 

[gutonc]

So I am very excited that I was able to change residencies and get a residency spot this year given how brutal the match seems to have been, particularly since I am switching into a different field. I don't want to disclose where I"m going or what specialty I am switching into to my PD. I have already provided my official resignation. The PD keeps asking me, and I try to be polite and all but don't want to disclose this. I keep feeling pressured into this. I know that the program is not particularly happy about me leaving, but I was honest, appropriate, upfront and professional with my resignation and have given them months of notice. Im looking for suggestions on how to best deal with this?

I don't personally see why it's such a big deal to just tell him. But it's also none of his business so if for whatever reason, you really don't want to say, then tell him that...and just avoid him for the rest of the year.

Also on a different note, based on my "matched" NRMP email, I am figuring that I matched at one of 3 programs on my ROL, and the other 10 are unlikely possibilities given that they were advanced. That means I either matched to my #1 which would be awsome, or dropped down really low on my list - like 8 or 9. If I do end up as low as 8 or 9 on my list, would it be appropriate/reasonable to contact some PDs and ask them about this? It would just seem sooo incredibly odd for me to have dropped so low down on my list in the case that I did not get my #1. I have never matched lower than 3 in the past. Thoughts on this?

Get over yourself. You're a re-applicant in a new specialty. You're not as competitive as you were before. Also, nobody's going to say anything other than "we really liked you but we filled higher than your spot on our list, glad you matched." Just swing on by and read the SOAP thread and enjoy the fact that you matched.

 

[DermViser]

So I am very excited that I was able to change residencies and get a residency spot this year given how brutal the match seems to have been, particularly since I am switching into a different field. I don't want to disclose where I"m going or what specialty I am switching into to my PD. I have already provided my official resignation. The PD keeps asking me, and I try to be polite and all but don't want to disclose this. I keep feeling pressured into this. I know that the program is not particularly happy about me leaving, but I was honest, appropriate, upfront and professional with my resignation and have given them months of notice. Im looking for suggestions on how to best deal with this?

Also on a different note, based on my "matched" NRMP email, I am figuring that I matched at one of 3 programs on my ROL, and the other 10 are unlikely possibilities given that they were advanced. That means I either matched to my #1 which would be awsome, or dropped down really low on my list - like 8 or 9. If I do end up as low as 8 or 9 on my list, would it be appropriate/reasonable to contact some PDs and ask them about this? It would just seem sooo incredibly odd for me to have dropped so low down on my list in the case that I did not get my #1. I have never matched lower than 3 in the past. Thoughts on this?

Before you start your new residency, I suggest you enter a hubris detoxification program.

 

[Burnt_toast]

I don't personally see why it's such a big deal to just tell him. But it's also none of his business so if for whatever reason, you really don't want to say, then tell him that...and just avoid him for the rest of the year.


Get over yourself. You're a re-applicant in a new specialty. You're not as competitive as you were before. Also, nobody's going to say anything other than "we really liked you but we filled higher than your spot on our list, glad you matched." Just swing on by and read the SOAP thread and enjoy the fact that you matched.

I don't want to tell the PD because the PD is not exactly warm and fuzzy, and I have been asked numerous times to reconsider, to stay, they want me to stay, and I'm fearful that they could be vindictive and try to call the new program and talk crap about me. No, I"m not being paranoid about this.

I think I'm pretty competitive, but no need to go back and forth about that. I do feel really bad for the SOAPers, and wish them the best and do feel happy that I matched in the end. How was the whole urology match fiasco years ago discovered? I think it was something of this sort.

 

[Burnt_toast]

Before you start your new residency, I suggest you enter a hubris detoxification program.

I am not sure what that means.

 

[DermViser]

I am not sure what that means.

The fact that you entered one specialty, dropped it, to go into another specialty, and after matching into another specialty (when you're actually "used goods" as far as residency matching is concerned compared to an MS-4), you would have the gall to actually call a PD, to ask why, just bc you didn't rank higher on your list in that specialty. That's complete and utter hubris on your part.

 

[Burnt_toast]

I never said I would call a PD. And I never said I did not rank high on my list- i said the possibilities were either my #1, or either 8 or 9. I have never matched 8 or 9 before so I woud find it surprising. I still don't know what hubris is.

Lastly how do you think the urology fiasco a few years back was found out/ By someone inquiring.

 

[Top Gun]

I really don't see what the big deal is, whether you matched at your #1, or your eighth or ninth choice. Just be glad you matched. This year, I matched at either 10 or 11 on my rank-order list for fellowship. I was just glad I matched!

 

[Burnt_toast]

I really don't see what the big deal is, whether you matched at your #1, or your eighth or ninth choice. Just be glad you matched. This year, I matched at either 10 or 11 on my rank-order list for fellowship. I was just glad I matched!

I am glad indeed that i matched, but I wouldn't think it makes sense for me to match that far down is my point. And there is a big preference for programs up until about 7 or so, below that they are not ideal. And given the screw up by NRMP, it really questions whether there is an error that occurred.

 

[SouthernSurgeon]

Hello iamnotme?

 

[Burnt_toast]

I really don't see what the big deal is, whether you matched at your #1, or your eighth or ninth choice. Just be glad you matched. This year, I matched at either 10 or 11 on my rank-order list for fellowship. I was just glad I matched!

Out of curiosity, what field/type of specialty?

 

[deleted480308]

I still don't know what hubris is.

Do you know what google is?

 

[rokshana]

I never said I would call a PD. And I never said I did not rank high on my list- i said the possibilities were either my #1, or either 8 or 9. I have never matched 8 or 9 before so I woud find it surprising. I still don't know what hubris is.

Lastly how do you think the urology fiasco a few years back was found out/ By someone inquiring.

well…you would have only matched once before, right? that's not really a trend…just be happy you matched.

 

[Winged Scapula]

I am glad indeed that i matched, but I wouldn't think it makes sense for me to match that far down is my point.

Perhaps you have misunderstood how much of a detriment it can be to an applicant to be leaving a program while applying for another. Many programs may not be willing to take a chance which is why you may not be as competitive as you think you are.

And there is a big preference for programs up until about 7 or so, below that they are not ideal. And given the screw up by NRMP, it really questions whether there is an error that occurred.

The conventional wisdom is that you don't rank programs you aren't interested in. If you haven't made it to Google to find the definition of hubris, here's an SDN link about the Uro Match of 2005:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/urology-match-completely-screwed-up-this-year.175816/

 

[DermViser]

I never said I would call a PD. And I never said I did not rank high on my list- i said the possibilities were either my #1, or either 8 or 9. I have never matched 8 or 9 before so I woud find it surprising. I still don't know what hubris is.

Lastly how do you think the urology fiasco a few years back was found out/ By someone inquiring.

You are very lacking in self-awareness. You are a RE-APPLICANT! That in itself is a HUGE reason why you should in no way automatically expect to match in your top 3. The other time you applied was when you were an MS-4. That is a huge change from applying again after you've graduated from med school. You are not a special snowflake anymore.

Also the NRMP does not do Urology.

 

[DermViser]

Perhaps you have misunderstood how much of a detriment it can be to an applicant to be leaving a program while applying for another.

No I'm pretty sure she understands. She just doesn't think it applies to her. She's a special snowflake, after all.

 

[Top Gun]

Out of curiosity, what field/type of specialty?

Nephrology

 

[Ronin786]

Hello iamnotme?

Bingo. Makes more sense why he/she is so bitter in the find out where you matched thread as well.

 

[thinkorswim]

I never said I would call a PD. And I never said I did not rank high on my list- i said the possibilities were either my #1, or either 8 or 9. I have never matched 8 or 9 before so I woud find it surprising. I still don't know what hubris is.

You're a re-applicant who is changing specialties, raising concern for not only your commitment but also your ability to make an informed decision given your limited clinical experience in your newly desired specialty -- small red flag that may or may not go away with some explaining.

You also have not informed your current PD about what specialty you were applying to, so I will assume that he or she did not write a letter of recommendation for you -- big red flag that isn't often overlooked.

Given these circumstances, it's not entirely unreasonable for you to fall that low on your rank list. Be thankful you matched.

Lastly how do you think the urology fiasco a few years back was found out/ By someone inquiring.

I believe this was discovered after several top programs failed to fill any of their positions.