Robbins 8th vs 9th edition

[zeppelinpage4]

So I just got a used copy of Robbins Basic Pathology 8th edition from 2007 for $16.

Except I didn't realize there was a current 9th edition until now, which seems to be from 2014.

Since there is about a seven year difference between the books, would it be worth the hassle of returning my 8th edition and then having to pay $100, as well as waiting several days for the 9th edition?

Basically comparing these two.
9th edition
http://www.amazon.com/Robbins-Basic...&keywords=robbins+basic+pathology+9th+edition

8th edition
http://www.amazon.com/Robbins-Basic-Pathology-Eighth-Edition/dp/1416029737/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1413938158&sr=8-8&keywords=robbins pathology

Not sure if there is a significant difference or not, but if 9th is easier to read or has more up to date info. I'm willing to spend the extra for it. It would just be hassle to return my 8th edition and then have to re-order the 9th edition and wait for that to arrive.

I could perhaps buy the 9th edition from my campus book store too and not have to wait. Still a hassle to return my 8th edition though, wish I realized there was a more current edition before I ordered.

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[Entadus]

I knowingly bought the 8th edition because it's cheaper.

 

[ChEMD]

The two books you linked are different books. There is, however, a 9th edition of Robins Basic Pathology as well, but I doubt it's much different than the 8th edition.

 

[Priapism4tooLong]

Atherosclerosis is totally different now, get the 9th edition

 

[D4C]

Now I'm not advocating anything illegal mind you, but there are other...avenues you might consider for getting 9th edition cheaper .

 

[zeppelinpage4]

I knowingly bought the 8th edition because it's cheaper.

Most folks would do the same, I'll admit, I'm just a bit odd and neurotic about these things haha.

The two books you linked are different books. There is, however, a 9th edition of Robins Basic Pathology as well, but I doubt it's much different than the 8th edition.

Oh I did not notice that. I fixed the link. If the 9th isn't any better, I'm content keeping the 8th, but I just wanted to hear from others.

Atherosclerosis is totally different now, get the 9th edition

Exactly! I just had to be sure. I need to have all up to date research data and findings in my texts down to the current date. There's probably an all encompassing cure for heart diseases in the 9th that wasn't even around in 2007 and all the poor folks who used the 8th aren't aware of. Really, all doctors that studied before 2014 should have to go back and re-read the 9th edition now that it's out.


But really, I only asked because the newer editions are sometimes a bit easier to read and follow if they have better diagrams and that's important to me. Also, some up to date info. even if it's minor isn't bad. I just wanted some opinions from others to see if the difference was significant enough to get the 9th. Honestly, I'm happy to keep the 8th if they're the same, saves me a lot of time and money.

Now I'm not advocating anything illegal mind you, but there are other...avenues you might consider for getting 9th edition cheaper .

Haha, I thought about that a lot, it would be way more convenient but for some reason I can't read on computer screens and like having the physical text in front of me.


So, I am also curious, is the Basic version of Robbins enough to learn from?

 

[Serous Demilune]

So, I am also curious, is the Basic version of Robbins enough to learn from?

It won't teach you pharm, and it will give you only a basic overview of physiology for each organ system. It's also kind of light on clinical presentations of disease, you'll need to do boards-type questions to hammer those in.

 

[NickNaylor]

Just about the only thing Robbins is good for is for taking up a couple of inches of space on your bookshelf when you're an attending to help you dun look smart. It's a good reference, but to be honest you will probably quickly move on to other sources that are substantially more concise and easier to read.

This is coming from someone who appreciated the... uh... thoroughness of Robbins, unlike many of my colleagues.

 

[zeppelinpage4]

It won't teach you pharm, and it will give you only a basic overview of physiology for each organ system. It's also kind of light on clinical presentations of disease, you'll need to do boards-type questions to hammer those in.

Thanks, that makes sense, I suppose it only really covers pathology. I noticed several upperclassmen at our school used BRS physiology for physiology review.
Would Robbins/Pathoma + BRS Physiology (for physio) + UWorld questions cover most of the bases?

I'm considering getting a pharm review book too, like Deja Review. Our school is teaching relevant pharm throughout the year for each block, so hopefully I'll learn that as I go as well.

Just about the only thing Robbins is good for is for taking up a couple of inches of space on your bookshelf when you're an attending to help you dun look smart. It's a good reference, but to be honest you will probably quickly move on to other sources that are substantially more concise and easier to read.

This is coming from someone who appreciated the... uh... thoroughness of Robbins, unlike many of my colleagues.

Hahaha, I've always been one to prefer thoroughness myself. Although it's sitting on your bookshelf now, did you feel it was helpful in M2 year? Also what are the more concise resources you used?
I'm hoping to use Robbins or any other recommended books as my main primary resource for M2 material (I prefer reading to watching lectures/videos, so I'm hoping to find good books to learn material from in place of our lectures, and then skimming the lecture slides just to make sure I got everything).

 

[NickNaylor]

Thanks, that makes sense, I suppose it only really covers pathology. I noticed several upperclassmen at our school used BRS physiology for physiology review.
Would Robbins/Pathoma + BRS Physiology (for physio) + UWorld questions cover most of the bases?

I'm considering getting a pharm review book too, like Deja Review. Our school is teaching relevant pharm throughout the year for each block, so hopefully I'll learn that as I go as well.

Hahaha, I've always been one to prefer thoroughness myself. Although it's sitting on your bookshelf now, did you feel it was helpful in M2 year? Also what are the more concise resources you used?
I'm hoping to use Robbins or any other recommended books as my main primary resource for M2 material (I prefer reading to watching lectures/videos, so I'm hoping to find good books to learn material from in place of our lectures, and then skimming the lecture slides just to make sure I got everything).

I used it for a good chunk of pathophys during M2 but ultimately found that it just took way too much time to get through and had too much information that you'll never use again. I ultimately moved onto Pathoma for a quick overview of the material with Rapid Review Pathology ("Goljan") for more in-depth information. Together I thought those were more than sufficient.

Don't get me wrong, get Robbins if you feel like you want to get it. Like I said, it's a great reference text. But I imagine you'll realize how long it takes to read through it and decide that your time might be used in better ways. You could always use Robbins to fill in the gaps that Pathoma/Goljan leave out if you'd like.

But hey, try what you want. That's how you figure out the whole studying thing.

 

[DermViser]

Just about the only thing Robbins is good for is for taking up a couple of inches of space on your bookshelf when you're an attending to help you dun look smart. It's a good reference, but to be honest you will probably quickly move on to other sources that are substantially more concise and easier to read.

This is coming from someone who appreciated the... uh... thoroughness of Robbins, unlike many of my colleagues.

Except she's using the concise medium-sized Robbins Basic Pathology textbook, not the reference sized Robbins Pathologic Basis of Disease textbook.

 

[DermViser]

It won't teach you pharm, and it will give you only a basic overview of physiology for each organ system. It's also kind of light on clinical presentations of disease, you'll need to do boards-type questions to hammer those in.

It's not really meant to integrate with other subjects. It's mainly an Anatomic Pathology textbook. Hence why it is quite lacking in clinical presentation.

 

[TheShaker]

The instructors at my school use either the 8th or 9th, depending on their preferences. Some of them weren't even aware that a 9th one came out. I feel like they would be more adamant about using the 9th edition if it actually made a difference.

 

[DermViser]

Thanks, that makes sense, I suppose it only really covers pathology. I noticed several upperclassmen at our school used BRS physiology for physiology review.
Would Robbins/Pathoma + BRS Physiology (for physio) + UWorld questions cover most of the bases?

I'm considering getting a pharm review book too, like Deja Review. Our school is teaching relevant pharm throughout the year for each block, so hopefully I'll learn that as I go as well.

Hahaha, I've always been one to prefer thoroughness myself. Although it's sitting on your bookshelf now, did you feel it was helpful in M2 year? Also what are the more concise resources you used?
I'm hoping to use Robbins or any other recommended books as my main primary resource for M2 material (I prefer reading to watching lectures/videos, so I'm hoping to find good books to learn material from in place of our lectures, and then skimming the lecture slides just to make sure I got everything).

If you want a good review book for Pharm -- Katzung & Trevor's Pharmacology Examination and Board Review is the book you need. Deja Review is a question-answer book: http://www.amazon.com/Deja-Review-Pharmacology-Second-Edition/dp/0071627294 (use the Look Inside feature)

I agree with @NickNaylor -- Rapid Review Pathology by Goljan (w/his audios) is an excellent book. The Robbins reference text (Big Robbins) is only good for histo/gross pictures.

 

[DermViser]

The instructors at my school use either the 8th or 9th, depending on their preferences. Some of them weren't even aware that a 9th one came out. I feel like they would be more adamant about using the 9th edition if it actually made a difference.

That's bc the Big Robbins 9th edition came out in 2014, the Robbins Basic Pathology 9th edition came out in 2012.

 

[TheShaker]

That's bc the Big Robbins 9th edition came out in 2014, the Robbins Basic Pathology 9th edition came out in 2012.

Ohhh I didn't know there were different books.

 

[DermViser]

Ohhh I didn't know there were different books.

There are 3 of them:

The atlas:

The question book:

 

[Awared]

I really like the big robbins book for pre-clinical work. It's really thorough and pretty much 80% of the time has enough information for any PBL case you come across. I'm sure you can find PDFs of it online, but I think it's worthwhile having a physical copy for right now.

 

[NickNaylor]

Except she's using the concise medium-sized Robbins Basic Pathology textbook, not the reference sized Robbins Pathologic Basis of Disease textbook.

Oops, good catch - didn't see that. All of my comments were about Big Robbins.

 

[notbobtrustme]

Pathoma + RR Path = cost of Big Robbins.

You won't touch Big Robbins for pathology and if you do, you are wasting your time. Get Pathoma, get RR Path and laugh your way to an A in pathology. Pretty sure I didn't miss a single question on pathology on Step 1 due to these two sources.

 

[Psai]

pathoma + goljan lectures
pathoma gives you a great foundation, goljan teaches you how to think

i got robbins, opened it once and read a page. gave up

 

[Roxas]

Pathoma + RR Path = cost of Big Robbins.

You won't touch Big Robbins for pathology and if you do, you are wasting your time. Get Pathoma, get RR Path and laugh your way to an A in pathology. Pretty sure I didn't miss a single question on pathology on Step 1 due to these two sources.

I was planning on crying my way to a C (srs) but I'll keep this in mind for path next semester!

 

[MalibuPreMD]

Get Pathoma, get RR Path and laugh your way to an A in pathology. Pretty sure I didn't miss a single question on pathology on Step 1 due to these two sources.

I agree with this 100%. These two cover 99.9% of the path covered on Step 1. Add any other sources and you'll be wasting time learning minutiae not covered on boards. For MS I and II, efficiency > thoroughness.

 

[Mad Jack]

I opened Robbins once.

Once.

 

[seminoma]

If you're going to read Robbins Basic (instead of big Robbins) you might as well just read Goljan.

 

[PikminOC]

In terms of cost this is but a droplet..

 

[DermViser]

In terms of cost this is but a droplet..

Reminds me of the ones who say whether they should get the new First Aid when they're going to buy a new one anyways. It's 40 freaking dollars. Big deal. That's not even a drop in the bucket in terms of your tuition.

 

[PikminOC]

Reminds me of the ones who say whether they should get the new First Aid when they're going to buy a new one anyways. It's 40 freaking dollars. Big deal. That's not even a drop in the bucket in terms of your tuition.

And board certs, moc, malpractice, etc etc

 

[notbobtrustme]

In terms of cost this is but a droplet..

100 bucks is a good dinner for 2
100 bucks is food money for a week
100 bucks is good drinking money
100 bucks can buy you a lot of weed
100 bucks is 2 months worth of gas money

i can think of a ton of ways to spend 100 bucks better than buying the Big Robbins.

 

[DermViser]

100 bucks is a good dinner for 2
100 bucks is food money for a week
100 bucks is good drinking money
100 bucks can buy you a lot of weed
100 bucks is 2 months worth of gas money

i can think of a ton of ways to spend 100 bucks better than buying the Big Robbins.

You're right. It's much more useful to spend it on booze or weed. Also OP is buying the medium Robbins not Big Robbins.

 

[Hemorrage]

You're right. It's much more useful to spend it on booze or weed. Also OP is buying the medium Robbins not Big Robbins.

Condoms weren't on the list...

 

[Promethean]

Condoms weren't on the list...

*GOOD* catch! If you are going to be miserly about buying books, definitely invest in contraceptives. Children are the expenses that keep on taking.

 

[seminoma]

100 bucks is a good dinner for 2
100 bucks is food money for a week
100 bucks is good drinking money
100 bucks can buy you a lot of weed
100 bucks is 2 months worth of gas money

i can think of a ton of ways to spend 100 bucks better than buying the Big Robbins.

$100 is pathoma for 1 yr.

 

[NickNaylor]

100 bucks is a good dinner for 2
100 bucks is food money for a week
100 bucks is good drinking money
100 bucks can buy you a lot of weed
100 bucks is 2 months worth of gas money

i can think of a ton of ways to spend 100 bucks better than buying the Big Robbins.

You're right. It's much more useful to spend it on booze or weed. Also OP is buying the medium Robbins not Big Robbins.

I just preferred to get high off Robbins.

 

[DermViser]

I just preferred to get high off Robbins.

It's a great surface to do lines of coke off of (at least so I hear...yeah that's it)

 

[notbobtrustme]

$100 is pathoma for 1 yr.

yep, and you'll get 1000x more use out of Pathoma than any Robbins, period.