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RVU vs. CCOM
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But I'm a little biased...
But I'm a little biased...
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No competition.. CCOM hands down...
CCOM is one of the oldest and most respected DO schools in America. RVU is a profit school and hasnt had a graduating class yet.
I'd rather pay 4x and go to CCOM then RVU...
CCOM is one of the oldest and most respected DO schools in America. RVU is a profit school and hasnt had a graduating class yet.
I'd rather pay 4x and go to CCOM then RVU...
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I interviewed at (and was accepted by) RVU... really liked the school and the people there. Leaving aside the for-profit argument, and with apologies to bonsaipalmtree for quoting out of context, here's what killed the deal for me:
Rotations are arguably one of the more important aspects of a medical school, both for exposure to the various fields of medicine, and for a chance to shine in front of PD's for future residency applications. If, at this point in the game, the list isn't "finalized," this isn't good enough for me.
Disclaimer: I'm just another #$%@# premed, so take this w/ a grain of salt...
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Ccom.
CCOM. It's nice to see a pre-med who is concerned about cost, but there are a lot of ways to reduce the cost of attending CCOM. Have a roommate, cook at home, make your own coffee, yada yada.
Also, at RVU you would still have one year of loans that are NOT federal based. This could mean insane interest rates, and not being about to consolidate all of your loans together at the end.
The only way that I would go with RVU over CCOM is if you thought you would do terribly there--for whatever reason.
Also, at RVU you would still have one year of loans that are NOT federal based. This could mean insane interest rates, and not being about to consolidate all of your loans together at the end.
The only way that I would go with RVU over CCOM is if you thought you would do terribly there--for whatever reason.
Circle gets the square.
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🙂 As posted on RVU's website and the RVU Facebook page...
http://www.rockyvistauniversity.org/PDFs/3rdyr%20Curriculum%20sheet.pdf
http://www.rockyvistauniversity.org/PDFs/3rdyr%20Curriculum%20sheet.pdf
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Can anyone from the area break down what this means??? It's hard to tell if some of these hospitals are big, teaching, etc, and how many students they will take.
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CCOM, regardless of that 3rd year list posted.
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Well there you go! 😀
To be fair, when I asked 3 or 4 months ago, this information wasn't available. Since I had to make a decision on or before 12/15... RVU was off the list. It seemed like RVU has a great learning environment, I'm sure the students there will kick #$$.
It would be two years without federal loans if you're in the class of 2014.
Oops, sorry.
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The Denver hospitals that are listed cover most of metro Denver's community hospitals. Although, I don't think any are teaching hospitals. Those would be University, Children's, and Denver Health. Also absent from the list are National Jewish Health, which is a really well known respiratory hospital where CU's med students can rotate, and the VA.
That said, I'd imagine St Anthony's Central(272 beds) and Swedish(396 beds) would be decent hospitals to rotate since they're Colorado's only other level 1 trauma centers, besides Denver Health(500 beds). Skyridge is a pretty new, and very swank hospital serving southern Denver's well to do suburbs. Good Sam is also pretty nice and in Denver's northwest burbs. Both Skyridge and Good Sam are level 3 trauma centers.
The Colorado Springs' hospitals cover the medical needs for a large portion of southeastern Colorado. They're about 1-2 hr south of Denver. Any cases that don't need/can't go to Denver are handled at Memorial or Penrose. The Springs is, itself, a medium sized city(pop. ~400,000) so I imagine both Memorial and Penrose will let you see a good mix of cases. Both hospitals are full service and level 2 trauma centers. Nestled at the foot of Rockies, it's also a nice place to live.
I don't know much about the other places, but unless you want to go strictly into rural medicine and/or drive >3 hrs, IMHO I'd try setting up most of my rotations at the above facilities.
Edit: Oh yeah, I also say go CCOM
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Several of these hospitals have FM residency programs: St Mary Corwin, Swedish, St A's North, Rose; and Path at Penrose, I think. There is a transitional year program @ P/SL, and IM residents from the U rotate through there. There used to be a DO FM residency @ P/SL, which closed down suddenly some years ago; there used to be a surgery residency @ St A's Central. I would be surprised if St Joe's took more med students, since they already get a lot from the U; they are the only comprehensive teaching hospital among the group, with students + residents in IM/surg/ob/FM + others rotating through. Rose has had a lot of changes over the past few years, and it will be interesting to see if they take students.
Rotating at a Level 1 trauma center is irrelevant. As a med student, you are not going to be running anything to do with a Level 1 trauma case. This is true even if you think you want to be a super-fantastic trauma surgeon. Instead, you want a place where there is a good system for incorporating med students into pt care, and where you will have appropriate responsibility instead of just shadowing your attending. You will see a wide range of pathology at any hospital. You need teachers who are invested in your learning, instead of just allowing you to follow them. Remember, at a private for-profit hospital such as the HealthOne system, the pts may not be so excited about paying to have a med student on their care team.
Rotating at a Level 1 trauma center is irrelevant. As a med student, you are not going to be running anything to do with a Level 1 trauma case. This is true even if you think you want to be a super-fantastic trauma surgeon. Instead, you want a place where there is a good system for incorporating med students into pt care, and where you will have appropriate responsibility instead of just shadowing your attending. You will see a wide range of pathology at any hospital. You need teachers who are invested in your learning, instead of just allowing you to follow them. Remember, at a private for-profit hospital such as the HealthOne system, the pts may not be so excited about paying to have a med student on their care team.
