saddened by loss of Robin Williams

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Although autopsy has not been performed yet, his death is presumed to be a suicide. This really saddens me, as I enjoyed his movies since I was a teen. He always seemed like a deeply thoughtful person... not just a funny one. Apparently he struggled with substance abuse in the past, and had been having severe depression lately. Wish some kind of intervention could have prevented this. Depression and other mental illness has such a huge toll on morbidity and quality of life lost.... and his death reminds me how important our job is to helping improve people's lives.
 
My heart goes out to all those who knew and loved him. I remember growing up with his performances, he had such an immeasurable talent. And now I have a sudden urge to go hug my Psychiatrist in gratitude for pulling me up and out of the abyss when it was needed; however, seeing as that's not possible I'll just give everyone here a virtual (((hug))) instead and say 'Thank you for the work you do, it does make a difference'.

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Psychology Today in an article mentioned he had bipolar disorder. If so he could've been through a depressive episode. This is just speculation on my part.
A thing about announcing causes and motives of death is the police and coroners are superficial in their analysis from a psychological perspective. For example, if someone had a self-inflicted gunshot to their head, the presumption is suicide despite that it could've been Russian Roulette.

A psychological autopsy is a better method to evaluate these things.
 
Psychology Today in an article mentioned he had bipolar disorder. If so he could've been through a depressive episode. This is just speculation on my part.
A thing about announcing causes and motives of death is the police and coroners are superficial in their analysis from a psychological perspective. For example, if someone had a self-inflicted gunshot to their head, the presumption is suicide despite that it could've been Russian Roulette.

A psychological autopsy is a better method to evaluate these things.

Does the Goldwater Rule still apply post-mortem?
 
I find it extremely sad that after a reported 20 years of sobriety, it was reported that he relapsed. In my experience that can be a psychological blow that many do not recover from. Depression alone can be fatal, with active substance use, the risk is increased exponentially.

I, for one, will miss the energy and passion that he exhibited in his characters. His role in Good Will Hunting shows some of the best of what a psychotherapist can be and how important it is to connect at an emotional level with another human's suffering.
 
I'm sure Goldwater still applies which is why I stated this is pure speculation. The point of the Goldwater rule was psychiatrists, like Rush Limbaugh (not a psychiatrist but he does the same thing), were claiming to have expertise in areas they did not when it came to analyzing politicians, making wild statements, for example, that Goldwater was running for president to satisfy his narcisissm and that he was a Nazi. Although the rule extends beyond politicians, those psychiatrists were really, in fact, just trying to politically preach under a false guise that they were onto something that was scientific in nature.

This rule was recently and famously violated by Keith Ablow, who IMHO should be considered for having his license removed. He specifically stated his opinion was as a psychiatrist and physician, then alleged that anyone acting like Biden would need to be evaluated for dementia for a battery of tests or be up for malpractice which is blatantly false.
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2...-has-dementia-or-was-drunk-during-the-debate/

Adding the disclaimer that this is purely speculation should, I hope, satisfy I'm not breaking the rule. I do not claim to have any real knowledge of RW other than what I read in the news, and if I were talking to patients or to the public, I wouldn't have brought it up in the manner in which I am presenting it to students and colleagues.
 
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the real issue here is the 20+ million he lost getting divorce raped by his two ex-wives
 
It's very, very sad. It made me think that even with all the best resources at your fingertips, there can still be not enough help apparently.

I was very affected as well when Cory Monteith died, more so than with Williams. I know I didn't know him, but you could tell in his outreach he was genuinely kind. He also died right after getting out of rehab, although his was drug related.

The people with the most resources available, presumably going to the best rehab facilities, and it's not enough. Hard to understand. It's very sad.
 
This came as a huge shock to me. It was depressing to see such a genius of a man commit suicide. He'll live on through his stand-up performances though I'm sure. He's one of the best there was when it came to spontaneous humor. I'm going to leave this right here:

 
Were you one of the few people aside from me that didn't like Patch Adams? Half the things in the movie that the medical school weren't allowing Dr. Adams to do make complete sense if you actually understand medicine. Students don't see patients until 3rd year because until that point the students don't have the training nor the immunizations, and no, scaring the crap out of a guy in the ICU to cheer him up ain't exactly thoughtful medicine. Stealing medical supplies from a hospital isn't exactly taking from the rich and giving to the poor, and a reason why there's a bunch of regulations to be done before a health provider can practice is to make sure you don't get a sociopathic whacko working in your clinic that can end up killing your girlfriend.

Friends of mine have read Patch Adams' books, and they told me the books explain it much better than the movie does, and that the latter had to be dumbed-down for the masses. I'm not knocking Patch Adams, I'm saying I couldn't get into the movie about him.

Of course, do I agree with with the message that medicine should be made as humane as possible, but for me, and I'm not part of the masses, the movie didn't appeal. Hawkeye from M*A*S*H is a like-spirited doctor where everything presented was something done smartly enough for me not to fidget every few minutes while I'm watching.
 
I couldn’t suspend my disbelief enough to get passed all of the things Dr. Adams was doing that he shouldn’t have been doing. I tried telling myself it is just a movie, but it wasn’t good enough to be able to pull that off.
It’s not surprising we don’t like doctor shows. Police don’t like Cop shows, detectives don’t like detective shows….
 
Jumanji was the best. 😢

I think mental health has been an issue for decades and its abnormalities are finally becoming known prevalent diseases.
 
Friends of mine have read Patch Adams' books, and they told me the books explain it much better than the movie does, and that the latter had to be dumbed-down for the masses. I'm not knocking Patch Adams, I'm saying I couldn't get into the movie about him.
Patch Adams gave a talk at my college once. I don't remember anything he actually said, but I remember at that time I left the talk thinking he was crazy and wrong about many things. No idea what I would have thought if my present-day self were there.
 
How can you not like Scrubs! It's also the most medically accurate TV show ever made I think.

Scrubs was the best sitcom format type of show ever.

But I can't go with you on williams' stand up. It doesn't hold up. Its cocaine ridden spazz fest with little originality. He's a well known joke thief in comedy circles in any case. His acting had some great performances mixed in with intolerable corniness.

So..idk. It's sad for anybody to commit suicide. But no more so for Robin Williams.
 
He's a well known joke thief in comedy circles in any case.

So many do. Some get caught, some don't. Woody Allen, Dick Cavett, Bill Hicks, Dennis Leary, Dane Cook, Louis C.K., and so on.

Seems like the more famous you are, the higher the allegations.



I suppose it's subjective and I do not know if you've seen any of his live shows, but Robin Williams is by far the best improv stand-up comic I'd ever seen.

You can't steal jokes for improv anyway.
 
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