salaries for clinical lecturer position at a med school

[PHD12]

Hi everyone!

I was curious if anyone knows anything about median and starting salaries for full-time clinical lecturer positions in a psychiatry department of a medical school? I am also thinking about clinical assistant professor positions in a medical school. Does anyone know the difference? Also, what is the difference between the title "assistant professor" vs. "clinical assistant professor" aside from the research emphasis?

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[Pragma]

Hi everyone!

I was curious if anyone knows anything about median and starting salaries for full-time clinical lecturer positions in a psychiatry department of a medical school? I am also thinking about clinical assistant professor positions in a medical school. Does anyone know the difference? Also, what is the difference between the title "assistant professor" vs. "clinical assistant professor" aside from the research emphasis?

The clinical assistant professor positions I know of involve 100% clinical work. I have seen this title for part time positions before as well. Usually in that setting it might involve some training and minimal teaching requirements, but your bread is buttered by your clinical billing. I am sure there are exceptions. T4C could probably tell you more, but that is how it was done at AMCs I trained at.

Not sure about lecturer positions in medical schools, but I'd imagine they involve more teaching and perhaps research.

From what I understand, these positions are not typically tenure track and you contract every year.

 

[Pragma]

Oh and for starting salaries, I have seen anywhere from 60 to 90k. But also pay attention to noncompete clauses. Some people I knew in these jobs were ineligible to participate in private practice.

 

[PHD12]

Oh and for starting salaries, I have seen anywhere from 60 to 90k.

Thanks! Were the 90K salaries in a higher cost of living area. It seems like a big salary difference from 60K.

 

[Pragma]

Thanks! Were the 90K salaries in a higher cost of living area. It seems like a big salary difference from 60K.

I saw both ends of the spectrum in the same large city. It really depends on how they negotiate offers...the higher ones sometimes use regional salary stats for medical schools while the low ones probably are just saving money because they can.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

Hi everyone!

I was curious if anyone knows anything about median and starting salaries for full-time clinical lecturer positions in a psychiatry department of a medical school? I am also thinking about clinical assistant professor positions in a medical school. Does anyone know the difference? Also, what is the difference between the title "assistant professor" vs. "clinical assistant professor" aside from the research emphasis?

Most/All public state universities will post this information...though it might be buried on their website or only found after digging around on Google a bit. I interviewed at a number of large public universities, and prior to my on-site interviews I made sure to know the ranges for each place. What is tricky is that the "posted" amount will most likely only include the "base" faculty salary paid by the university. It is quite common for someone to have a 100% FT appointment to the medical school, but they get paid from 2-3 different sources, so take every figure with a large grain of salt.

In regard to total compensation $'s, I've seen $64k-$85k for 100% FT appointment at the Assistant Professor level within a medical school (based on a number of large public universities). $85k-$90k in TX (in or near major metro cities). $90k-$95k-ish for the Northeast. The Devil is in the details though....since some of these salaries had non-compete clauses, while others didn't. I had one place that offered $85k, but they were very picky about *only* practicing within their system, though you could earn a bit more if you chose to take on more PP work. Another place offered $75k, but it was expected I'd have a PP to supplement their income. Another place was $90k and I could have a PP....but the cost of living was very expensive, so even making $125k/yr wasn't worth it to me. I briefly looked at one place in CA that was $90s, which was like working for minimum wage when you accounted for the cost of living.

These are for clinical appointments within a hospital/medical school doing neuropsych evals. I'm guessing non-neuro/rehab type positions would be a bit less. The private practice aspect was the sticking point for me at 2 different places....as I was unwilling to work anywhere I couldn't see pts on my own.