School does not give out honors for third year.

[sylvanthus]

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What to do about SLORS? Can a preceptor still put honors on the SLOR and just state my school doesn't give out honors for the final grade?

I'm coming from a new DO school, so I really do not want to be handicapped by this and I am not certain the Dean will include this information in the Dean's Letter.

On a side note, at ACEP we were given a presentation that stated that "Independent Applicants" had a 53% chance of landing an Allopathic EM residency and DOs are included in this pool. I really hope that this is not the odds for DOs, but cannot find reliable information through the AOA/NBOME that separates us out.

 

[Redrox]

What to do about SLORS? Can a preceptor still put honors on the SLOR and just state my school doesn't give out honors for the final grade?

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Yes. The SLOR form itself only has options for Honors, high pass, pass, low pass or fail. No place to give a numerical grade or whatever your schools been using.



http://www.cordem.org/files/DOCUMENTLIBRARY/SLOR/Slor.pdf

 

[sylvanthus]

Were strict pass/fall, hence my concern.

 

[gutonc]

Your school kind of sucks, doesn't it?

Look, I think that at this level, grades are kind of dumb. Either you can master the material or you cant. But even the most naive MS1 knows that residency programs will use at least clinical grades to rank applicants. So any school that says "even though every other school gives grades, and we know it's important but we don't believe in them and we're going to change the world on our own" is doing the "right" thing but doing the wrong thing for their students.

 

[sylvanthus]

So, whats the best way to go about letting programs know that we don't do honors for 3rd year and that it is just pass/fail? It is going to look odd that I have 20+ honors for 1st and 2nd year and then BAM, just passes for 3rd year because the school changed the game on us.

If my Dean puts it in my Dean's Letter will that suffice? Should my LOR writers mention that they are giving me a high grade, but my school does not give out honors grades? How best to address this so I don't get screwed?

 

[Dwindlin]

My school is strictly pass/fail and our students never seem to have issues in the match. Actually the past three years have really been stellar matches for our program. Roughly 10 or 12 go into EM each year.

 

[snoopy85k]

The SLOR has the letter writer break down the grade distribution. If its just pass/fail, then that will be reflected in the SLOR already as a percentage of students in each of those categories with 0% high pass & honors.

 

[turkeyjerky]

My school is strictly pass/fail and our students never seem to have issues in the match. Actually the past three years have really been stellar matches for our program. Roughly 10 or 12 go into EM each year.

Kinda matters what school you go to. I'm sure it's different if you go to UCSF vs a brand new DO school that no one's heard of.

 

[Dwindlin]

Kinda matters what school you go to. I'm sure it's different if you go to UCSF vs a brand new DO school that no one's heard of.

Not brand new, but not anything special. Little known midwest allo program.

 

[MSmentor018]

What to do about SLORS? Can a preceptor still put honors on the SLOR and just state my school doesn't give out honors for the final grade?

I'm coming from a new DO school, so I really do not want to be handicapped by this and I am not certain the Dean will include this information in the Dean's Letter.

On a side note, at ACEP we were given a presentation that stated that "Independent Applicants" had a 53% chance of landing an Allopathic EM residency and DOs are included in this pool. I really hope that this is not the odds for DOs, but cannot find reliable information through the AOA/NBOME that separates us out.

I am not going to lie to you it's not easy crossing over but its' definitely do able. as far as I know those stats are either from NRMP or comparable to NRMP. also something about MD's get 10 interviews and have 99% chance of matching. DO's doing the same is 91%. of course they don't tell you everything that goes into those stats. and yes, we're lumped in together with FMG/IMG

as for SLORS, what they give you is separate from your grade. I've read ERAS with A for a grade but only "pass" on the SLOR. I don't remember DO programs using slors. so try to rotate at an MD program to get one. regarding your grading scale at your school, don't sweat it. we'll figure it out when we go through your stats.

good luck!

 

[sylvanthus]

Thank you, that eases my mind a lot. This is a stressful process, just wanted to make sure that all the hardwork didn't fall through due to a change in grading policy.