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EternalUnderdog

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I want to do academic medicine. I am going to go to UNC, is Duke really that much better than it? Can't I do just as well in this field at both. Are they not close enough in funding and research that it will come down to my own determination? I want to know if Duke is a higher springboard than UNC for this field.

My field of research will be biochemistry and genetics. Both of which have UNC ranked far higher than Duke. Yet overall research, Duke is higher. WTF???? Any thoughts on this?
 
UNC>Duke

Both in reputation and cost of attendance😀
 
I wonder where you are gonna go chubby. I guess we will meet up next year.
 
bump, anyone have more on this.....I want a consensus
You're not going to get a consensus because everyone is going to have a different opinion. There are several situations for which I would advise people go to UNC over Duke. It's a great school and a helluva lot cheaper. But there are a lot more opportunities to really get involved in research and build connections at a prominent research institution at Duke. You'll have to decide which is more important to you...easier mentorship/connections or a significantly cheaper price. Let me know if you have more specific questions.
 
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ucla>unc>>>>>duke

Seriously, i dont see Duke giving you anything UNC wont..except their curriculum


are you serious? here I was thinking that chubbs is gonna be at unc and if by some way I get in off the WL, I would get to meet the person who posts about 41334 times a day 🙂
 
hmm.. duke gets way more funding...

duke also participates in more innovative research such as stem cell research, where as UNC doesn't. They only have SCR Discussion Group which is lame.

I am a big UNC fan, but thats cuz I dont like research, if I were into research I would've been a Duke fan 🙂
 
are you serious? here I was thinking that chubbs is gonna be at unc and if by some way I get in off the WL, I would get to meet the person who posts about 41334 times a day 🙂
You will never know!
 
hmm.. duke gets way more funding...

duke also participates in more innovative research such as stem cell research, where as UNC doesn't. They only have SCR Discussion Group which is lame.

I am a big UNC fan, but thats cuz I dont like research, if I were into research I would've been a Duke fan 🙂
UNC gets a ton of NIH funding, not sure if its more than duke or not, and as far as stem cell research goes...I was under the impression that quite a few people are working with them at UNC...atleast thats what ive seen while browsing the website?????
 
UNC gets a ton of NIH funding, not sure if its more than duke or not, and as far as stem cell research goes...I was under the impression that quite a few people are working with them at UNC...atleast thats what ive seen while browsing the website?????

Having thought a lot about this myself, and having been at Duke for more than 5 years now, here's my 2 cents:

Duke is a research powerhouse...UNC is not nearly as much so. When the most recent NIH rankings were released, if I remember correctly Duke is now #3 in terms of NIH research dollars nationally. UNC has been in the top 20 at times, although I'm not sure about their most recent ranking. This too is impressive, but it's a difference in orders of magnitude in terms of the amount of research going on and the people doing it. I'll give you a few examples, to help illustrate my point. The Duke Clinical Research Institute is world-renowned, and is the mecca of cardiology and other sorts of clinical research that has become incredibly important in the practice of modern evidence based medicine. We also have a newly launched and incredibly NIH-funded Translational Medicine Institute, that is headed up by a famous cardiologist who was very nearly named as the new head of the FDA recently. Basic science research is king here too...Duke has a massive grant for AIDS vaccine research, another one for genomics work, and countless individual researchers with lots of grand funding. There are many stories about programs and people like this at Duke. While there are certainly some at UNC as well, this degree of success in research isn't nearly as prevalent, nor are there as many incredible leaders in their respective fields from whom you could learn and with whom you could work (they're generally not ivory tower folks, interestingly...most have been very willing to work with students/residents on research projects here at Duke).

Sure, there's research going on at UNC too, but if your goal is to practice academic medicine and have significant time dedicated towards research during medical school then Duke is really the place to be. That doesn't mean you can't be successful from UNC, but you'll have much less time to do research, and less exposure to the kinds of incredibly successful research mentors that seem to be everywhere you look at Duke. Why not give yourself every advantage possible? Plus, if you're planning to do a residency/fellowship in anything even remotely competitive, it's always best to go to the most reputable program you can, provided you'd be happy there. As much as it may seem unfair or arbitrary, the name makes a big difference in how you're viewed as an applicant...Duke students quite frankly will get more interviews just because they're from Duke.

Here are just a few snippets of what's going on in terms of major research initiatives at Duke:

http://humanvaccine.duke.edu/modules/grant_spt/index.php?id=2 - CHAVI (AIDS vaccine program)

http://www.dtmi.duke.edu/ - Translational Medicine Institute

http://www.dcri.duke.edu/ - Duke Clinical Research Institute

http://genome.duke.edu/ - Institute for Genome Sciences and Policy

http://www.cancer.duke.edu/modules/cancer/index.php?id=4 - Cancer Center research programs

http://www.cancer.duke.edu/modules/news/index.php?storytopic=2 - recent large grants/awards to Cancer Center researchers
 
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