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http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/Feb/19/scripps-rady-ucsd-proton/?#article-copy

Discuss . . .

 

[Gfunk6]

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/Feb/22/proton-scripps-cancer/?#article-copy

I guess the previous article was the abstract. Here is the full manuscript.

Abstract? Article? More like an advertorial!

BTW, CA already has two proton facilities in Loma Linda and Davis (the latter for superficial applications like ocular melanoma only).

 

[seper]

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/Feb/19/scripps-rady-ucsd-proton/?#article-copy

Discuss . . .

81 y/o with prostate Ca on protons... That is just sad.

 

[medgator]

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/Feb/22/proton-scripps-cancer/?#article-copy

I guess the previous article was the abstract. Here is the full manuscript.

This paragraph made me chuckle:

While that cost difference is stark, proponents note that the payment amounts do not take into account that those treated with protons tend to have fewer side effects, from secondary cancers to rectal bleeding.

I guess the "proponents" missed this SEER study from JAMA a couple years ago.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22511689

Hopefully all of the "pro" proton proponents who care to throw stones at the SEER study will be proposing randomized studies of their own 😀

 

[seper]

"they also stick balloons in patient's rectums every day"
that's what I tell my pts who inquire about proton center in my town )

 

[radiaterMike]

This paragraph made me chuckle:



I guess the "proponents" missed this SEER study from JAMA a couple years ago.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22511689

Hopefully all of the "pro" proton proponents who care to throw stones at the SEER study will be proposing randomized studies of their own 😀

I agree that the data on protons is laughable. Also, the dose uncertainties of protons are not a small issue. What you see on your plan (with only 2 fields) may not represent reality. There is a good Red J editorial on this. That being said, the SEER study however does have many issues as discussed in the editorials in JAMA. I can't really imagine protons being worse. I also can't imagine it being better.