SDN now has Complimentary and Alternative Health forums

[projectlogic]

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Wtf?

 

[KinasePro]

brb gunning for mod status on the "human placentophagy" sub forum.

 

[link2swim06]

Nothing wrong with alternative **** if it works. Some does (with strong data to back). Most doesn't.

 

[projectlogic]

How can we take it over?

 

[thepoopologist]

Think about what day it is. They pull something new every year

 

[projectlogic]

Think about what day it is. They pull something new every year

lol they sure fooled me.

 

[yumaddoe]

This Winter, don't rely on those fake medical doctors, who only care about their golf games and making drug companies richer, by injecting you with toxins that will make you sick of the flu, while lying to your face that it is good for you .... fight off the flu the natural way.

Oscillococcinum - take three to five pellets under your tongue once a week during the flu season, increasing to every day with known exposure. Or, take a dose before visiting shopping malls, climbing aboard airplanes, or inhabiting other areas known to harbor the influenza virus.

Elderberry has a long traditional use for prevention and treatment of influenza. In one study of patients positively infected with the flu virus, Elderberry reduced the duration of illness by 56%. You can make your own syrup using the dry berries, or pick up a bottle from the health food store. Either way, it's a great herb to have in the house for the first signs of illness, and can be taken all through the cold and flu season for an added anti-viral boost.

Garlic, and to a lesser extent its friend the onion, kills unwanted viruses and bacteria and provides your body with sulfur. Sulfur is necessary for detoxification, which is necessary for prime immune function. For strongest effect, eat it raw.

Zinc is necessary for appropriate cell-mediated immune responses and supports the integrity of your mucous membranes--essential for keeping the "bad guys" out. According to the research, Zinc is most effective in populations that are Zinc deficient. 15mg of Zinc per day for children and 30mg per day for adults is generally a good starting place to ward off deficiency

Lol 😀

 

[Siggy]

So... no OMM CAM subforum?

 

[notbobtrustme]

nothing makes me feel better than rubbing power crystals on my balls.

 

[Alan Harper]

So... no OMM CAM subforum?

OMM is weak sauce, long abandon by the keepers who proclaim its uniqueness yet publicly disdain practicing it. God forbid you actually touch the patient.

To be honest, I am a little disturbed that chiropractic medicine is listed as an alternative medicine. It is not alternative, it is as much mainstream as your regular MDs and DOs. In fact, we have more offices than medical offices. Who takes care of the car accident victims? Certainly not the MDs or DOs. We do. We are not alternative. We are mainstream.

 

[Siggy]

OMM is weak sauce, long abandon by the keepers who proclaim its uniqueness yet publicly disdain practicing it. God forbid you actually touch the patient.

To be fair, outside of the US osteopathy is more inline with other CAM fields with it's practitioners being trained and licensed only in OMM, instead of medicine + OMM.

 

[yehhhboiii]

Really well done. At first I thought it was BS but then I saw Lee's message which made it seem legit. It got me a little upset, especially to see a "chiropractice physician" tag himself as an attending.

 

[username456789]

Really well done. At first I thought it was BS but then I saw Lee's message which made it seem legit. It got me a little upset, especially to see a "chiropractice physician" tag himself as an attending.

Yeah, they registered a few other names (Jenny McCarthy, for one) to propagate the prank.

 

[PTPoeny]

Yeah, they registered a few other names (Jenny McCarthy, for one) to propagate the prank.

The arguing back and forth between the new names is hilarious.

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

They really put a lot of effort into it with creating the whole new subforum thing. Nice.

 

[Siggy]

Still no good placenta recipes. :-(

 

[JP2740]

OMM is weak sauce, long abandon by the keepers who proclaim its uniqueness yet publicly disdain practicing it. God forbid you actually touch the patient.

To be honest, I am a little disturbed that chiropractic medicine is listed as an alternative medicine. It is not alternative, it is as much mainstream as your regular MDs and DOs. In fact, we have more offices than medical offices. Who takes care of the car accident victims? Certainly not the MDs or DOs. We do. We are not alternative. We are mainstream.

Chiropractic physician lol.

Attending?

Is this part of the april fools lmao

 

[UCSFx2017]

#trololol

 

[NickNaylor]

They really put a lot of effort into it with creating the whole new subforum thing. Nice.

What got me was that there was "mod support" for the whole thing. I'm ashamed I was fooled.

Sent from my Nexus 7

 

[link2swim06]

If it worked, it wouldn't be alternative.

Guess it's your definition of alternative....I'd consider things like St. Johns Wort to be 'alternative.'

Even uptodate cites that studies show it is equivalent to SSRI for depression. St. Johns Wort is $4 at walmart while the other is a much more expensive prescription. Both have their own positives and negatives.

I think there are extremists on both sides of debate. Either people are 'pharm is all bad' or 'alternative is all quackery.' The truth lies somewhere in the middle. I agree many herbs are straight b.s. or placebo (which in itself is a real physiological effect). However even if an herb does work better than placebo, it can't really be patented. There is no big profit to be made and no drug reps pushing the product.

I think most allopathic medicine people are too quick to dismiss non-pharm things. It's at least worth a through review of the literature before you draw a conclusion.

 

[xenotype]

Even uptodate cites that studies show it is equivalent to SSRI for depression. St. Johns Wort is $4 at walmart while the other is a much more expensive prescription. Both have their own positives and negatives.

Several SSRIs are available for 4$ a month at Walmart, and 10$ for 90 days. The SSRIs have predictable doses and effects, while the herbal medicine does not. How well described is the metabolism, drug interaction profile, and adverse effect profile of St John's Wart compared to Citalopram? My guess would be not anywhere near as good.

 

[link2swim06]

Several SSRIs are available for 4$ a month at Walmart, and 10$ for 90 days. The SSRIs have predictable doses and effects, while the herbal medicine does not. How well described is the metabolism, drug interaction profile, and adverse effect profile of St John's Wart compared to Citalopram? My guess would be not anywhere near as good.

I'll agree with that to a point. But...SSRIs did get a black box warning for suicides (we can debate causality but regardless it was unexpected).

However, that doesn't mean St. Johns Wort is ineffective (granted St John's Wort is bad example, it interacts with a lot). Regardless, it isn't researched as much as big pharm because it can't be patented and has no drug reps to push it mainstream.

This is one of the many examples where an herb can have efficacy over placebo but can't make it mainstream for financial reasons.

 

[moto_za]

SDN - NARF Merger: Unfortunately there has been too much controversy regarding inclusion of the NARF complementary alternative medicine (CAM) forums. As a result, we have chosen to remove the NARF CAM Forums from SDN. They will be exclusively hosted at the NARF Google Group.

Thanks to all those open-minded members who participated. We hope these important discussions will continue at the NARF Google Group.