Should I mention this on my application next year?

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My wife gave birth to our daughter at the beginning of our senior year in high school. It is proven that both teen mothers and fathers have a lower chance of graduating high school and going to college than their childless peers. My wife and I are now juniors in college and I have done quite well (~3.75 sci and c, 31 mcat) So I guess my question is should I mention something about overcoming adversity? Or will it be looked upon negatively?
 
My wife gave birth to our daughter at the beginning of our senior year in high school. It is proven that both teen mothers and fathers have a lower chance of graduating high school and going to college than their childless peers. My wife and I are now juniors in college and I have done quite well (~3.75 sci and c, 31 mcat) So I guess my question is should I mention something about overcoming adversity? Or will it be looked upon negatively?

If it truly is something that has molded you and shaped your desire to pursue medicine, then I think you should definitely talk about it in your personal statement. Personal statement serves the purpose of giving adcoms a peek inside what kind of person you are beyond your stats and talking about adversity, what lessons you took out of it, how it influenced you to become a physician is an excellent way of approaching a PS. I wrote about some really personal experiences in my PS and was very hesitant to do so in the beginning as I wasn't sure if it would be "too much". But, doing so was a great idea as it became the topic of discussion at many of my interviews. Good luck!
 
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My wife gave birth to our daughter at the beginning of our senior year in high school. It is proven that both teen mothers and fathers have a lower chance of graduating high school and going to college than their childless peers. My wife and I are now juniors in college and I have done quite well (~3.75 sci and c, 31 mcat) So I guess my question is should I mention something about overcoming adversity? Or will it be looked upon negatively?

It's not adversity, but it is definitely an additional challenge. I would mention it, but I would not try to use it as a way to make yourself look better.

Anyone who will be moved by your ability to do well in college with a kid will make that leap on their own. Meaning, you can say "Since the birth of my daughter, blah blah blah" and they'll think "Wow, he did so well in school while managing to raise a kid". You don't have to say "Even though I have to take care of my child, and even though the odds were stacked against me, I'm still doing well"
 
I would mention it. I will mention my own daughter in mine when the time comes because she is the reason I got my crap together and realized I needed to pursue my dream of medicine.
 
Raising a child is hard work for anyone, let alone trying to pursue med school as well. That's why the adage is, "it takes a village." I would definitely mention it. Most pre-meds only have to take care of themselves, so I'm sure it would show a lot of maturity on your part.
 
You can keep it simple by saying that "I'm a parent with a young child but I've still excelled in classes, and I've also leanred ___from being a parent."

My wife gave birth to our daughter at the beginning of our senior year in high school. It is proven that both teen mothers and fathers have a lower chance of graduating high school and going to college than their childless peers. My wife and I are now juniors in college and I have done quite well (~3.75 sci and c, 31 mcat) So I guess my question is should I mention something about overcoming adversity? Or will it be looked upon negatively?
 
My wife gave birth to our daughter at the beginning of our senior year in high school. It is proven that both teen mothers and fathers have a lower chance of graduating high school and going to college than their childless peers. My wife and I are now juniors in college and I have done quite well (~3.75 sci and c, 31 mcat) So I guess my question is should I mention something about overcoming adversity? Or will it be looked upon negatively?

I would definitely mention it! IMO, you overcame adversity to get to where you are today. Congrats and good luck with the application cycle. Also, your stats are looking good for both MD and DO paths. I'm going to assume that you will have a successful application cycle 🙂
 
I think many of you misunderstand that adversity almost always goes hand in hand with some sort of misfortune. Being a single mother resulting from rape is adversity. Choosing to become teenage parents is not. A challenge yes, adversity no.
 
I think many of you misunderstand that adversity almost always goes hand in hand with some sort of misfortune. Being a single mother resulting from rape is adversity. Choosing to become teenage parents is not. A challenge yes, adversity no.

ad·ver·si·ty/adˈvərsitē/
Noun:
Difficulties; misfortune.
Synonyms:
misfortune - disaster - distress - calamity - hardship

It doesn't necessarily mean hardship does it? Being a Sr in high school and finding out your gf is pregnant when you thought "it won't happen to me" is something I would call a harship/adversity. But now we're just being nit-picky.
 
ad·ver·si·ty/advrsit/
Noun:
Difficulties; misfortune.
Synonyms:
misfortune - disaster - distress - calamity - hardship

It doesn't necessarily mean hardship does it? Being a Sr in high school and finding out your gf is pregnant when you thought "it won't happen to me" is something I would call a harship/adversity. But now we're just being nit-picky.

I can't think of any example of adversity that wouldn't double as an example of hardship. We can agree to disagree, but I don't think being a parent and a good student qualifies as "overcoming adversity"

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I can't think of any example of adversity that wouldn't double as an example of hardship. We can agree to disagree, but I don't think being a parent and a good student qualifies as "overcoming adversity"

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Lol MedPR. Cynicism is gonna get you 🙁
 
Lol MedPR. Cynicism is gonna get you 🙁

I'm not being cynical. I just don't use adversity as freely as others. Not every challenge is adversity.

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I'm not being cynical. I just don't use adversity as freely as others. Not every challenge is adversity.

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Lol you have a kid and understand the difficulty of having one?
 
I thought I had it rough when I had my first kid as a junior in college. If you can do that we'll in college while being a family man then don't just mention it, make it your thesis for your personal statement.

I even joke about having my son while taking organic chem. he was born the day of the spring quarter final exam. I called the prof the night before and told him that my wife's water broke and that we were headed to the hospital to have a baby. I then went in over spring break to take the exam.

I have good memories reading my textbooks to him while I studied. I read them like you would read a Dr. Seius book with rising and falling expression. It was not what I was reading, it was the fact that I was reading to him.

I would say that having a family in college is one of the most difficult things for a person to do. The only thing that I think would be more difficult would be to be a single parent with no support.

dsoz
 
I thought I had it rough when I had my first kid as a junior in college. If you can do that we'll in college while being a family man then don't just mention it, make it your thesis for your personal statement.

I even joke about having my son while taking organic chem. he was born the day of the spring quarter final exam. I called the prof the night before and told him that my wife's water broke and that we were headed to the hospital to have a baby. I then went in over spring break to take the exam.

I have good memories reading my textbooks to him while I studied. I read them like you would read a Dr. Seius book with rising and falling expression. It was not what I was reading, it was the fact that I was reading to him.

I would say that having a family in college is one of the most difficult things for a person to do. The only thing that I think would be more difficult would be to be a single parent with no support.

dsoz

Sage words.
 
Lol you have a kid and understand the difficulty of having one?

No I don't have a kid, nor do I understand the difficulty of having one. That's not relevant to my word choice though. I've said from my very first post that it was a challenge for sure, just not adversity by my understanding of the word.

Edit: Do you understand that a "challenge" does not turn into "adversity" based on how difficult the challenge is? There are adverse situations, and then there are challenging situations.
 
No I don't have a kid, nor do I understand the difficulty of having one. That's not relevant to my word choice though. I've said from my very first post that it was a challenge for sure, just not adversity by my understanding of the word.

Edit: Do you understand that a "challenge" does not turn into "adversity" based on how difficult the challenge is? There are adverse situations, and then there are challenging situations.

Man, you've got some brutal outlook on life.

Edit: you're grumpy...all the time
 
Didn't mean to start anything. Haha

There is a lot to my story that makes it a difficult situation.

My wife was raised in a home that wasn't the greatest environment (alcoholic parents), so when she became pregnant I knew my baby couldn't be raised in that. This led to us eloping during the summer before our senior year(an interesting story itself).

But then came....

Shortly after my daughter was born, my wife became pregnant again. Unfortunately this led to a miscarriage at about 3 months. Going to the ER and finding out our baby was gone was the worst experience of my life. I think I changed that day. I was humbled. However I think it was at this moment that I decided for sure that I wanted to be a doctor.

Something like that is hard for anyone let alone a couple in their senior year of high school who already have a kid.

Fast forward

We now have been married 3 and a half years and have a second child (who was born in the middle of a quarter when I was taking gen chem, gen bio, and calculus which led to my lowest GPA of any quarter/semester). My advice for anyone having a child during a term would be to lighten their load a little.

While not doing things the typical way, I am happy where I am today and wouldn't have it any other way. Do I have a normal college undergrad experience? No, but I'm ok with that.
 
Didn't mean to start anything. Haha

There is a lot to my story that makes it a difficult situation.

My wife was raised in a home that wasn't the greatest environment (alcoholic parents), so when she became pregnant I knew my baby couldn't be raised in that. This led to us eloping during the summer before our senior year(an interesting story itself).

But then came....

Shortly after my daughter was born, my wife became pregnant again. Unfortunately this led to a miscarriage at about 3 months. Going to the ER and finding out our baby was gone was the worst experience of my life. I think I changed that day. I was humbled. However I think it was at this moment that I decided for sure that I wanted to be a doctor.

Something like that is hard for anyone let alone a couple in their senior year of high school who already have a kid.

Fast forward

We now have been married 3 and a half years and have a second child (who was born in the middle of a quarter when I was taking gen chem, gen bio, and calculus which led to my lowest GPA of any quarter/semester). My advice for anyone having a child during a term would be to lighten their load a little.

While not doing things the typical way, I am happy where I am today and wouldn't have it any other way. Do I have a normal college undergrad experience? No, but I'm ok with that.

I second this. Or if you can plan it to be in the summer between semesters, you will thank yourself.
 
No I don't have a kid, nor do I understand the difficulty of having one. That's not relevant to my word choice though. I've said from my very first post that it was a challenge for sure, just not adversity by my understanding of the word.

Edit: Do you understand that a "challenge" does not turn into "adversity" based on how difficult the challenge is? There are adverse situations, and then there are challenging situations
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Pedantic much?
 
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Didn't mean to start anything. Haha

There is a lot to my story that makes it a difficult situation.

My wife was raised in a home that wasn't the greatest environment (alcoholic parents), so when she became pregnant I knew my baby couldn't be raised in that. This led to us eloping during the summer before our senior year(an interesting story itself).

But then came....

Shortly after my daughter was born, my wife became pregnant again. Unfortunately this led to a miscarriage at about 3 months. Going to the ER and finding out our baby was gone was the worst experience of my life. I think I changed that day. I was humbled. However I think it was at this moment that I decided for sure that I wanted to be a doctor.

Something like that is hard for anyone let alone a couple in their senior year of high school who already have a kid.

Fast forward

We now have been married 3 and a half years and have a second child (who was born in the middle of a quarter when I was taking gen chem, gen bio, and calculus which led to my lowest GPA of any quarter/semester). My advice for anyone having a child during a term would be to lighten their load a little.

While not doing things the typical way, I am happy where I am today and wouldn't have it any other way. Do I have a normal college undergrad experience? No, but I'm ok with that.

Wow man thats intense. I had my daughter half way through undergrad and I thought THAT was tough. I commend you. I used my family as the center if my application actually. My wife's pregnancy was very difficult and since I'm in a pretty rural area, she had to be flown to major hospitals away from town. It gave me a unique perspective on how it feels to be helpless in a loved ones health crisis. I based a lot of my app around this. I also talked about how motivated I am to pursue medicine because of my daughter and how strong my wife was through it all.

Overall, adcoms responded VERY well to my story. They saw how having my daughter shaped my interest in medicine. Your situation is similar (not the same obviously) and I think it could work to your advantage as long as you concentrate on how your situation shaped your interest in medicine.

I wouldnt recommend using the "adversity" thing. This should be obvious to adcoms anyway as it was probably very difficult. Instead, focus your story on how it shaped you as a student and person. Goodluck!
 
I wouldnt recommend using the "adversity" thing. This should be obvious to adcoms anyway as it was probably very difficult. Instead, focus your story on how it shaped you as a student and person. Goodluck!

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I discussed my children in my PS as well as a couple of my Secondary essays and most of my interviewers brought them up as a strength. My kids really pulled my game together and I have to give them the credit for doing it.

Most people with children have already adapted set schedules/routines, can manage time like there is no tomorrow, and have the added push for success because your family depends on it.
 
The last thing you want is the adcom calling you out for bs.

Well if it makes you feel any better MedPR, I understand what you're saying and I agree on the word usage you've suggested. Having children is most definitely challenging while in school (or any time of life really!) but I certainly would call it an adversity, which has a negative connotation in my mind.
Using the word "adversity" in a PS to describe the challenge of being in school and having kids probably isn't the best thing due to that negative connotation. So in the sense of being nit picky on the PS, don't describe it as an adversity unless you want to express that negative feeling towards the challenge of having kids.
In regular conversation or on a forum, it's probably not that big of a deal, and it would be silly to point it out.
Anyway, that's my $0.02 on the word adversity.

As for using your challenges in a PS, it's a no-brainer. Do it. As many have said, highlight the strength your family gives you or how having a family has shaped you into the person you are now. Having a family of my own, and having our daughter in the middle of the semester when we were both in school full-time and I was working 3 part-time jobs, I can say I understand how much of a challenge it can be, and it definitely is worth mentioning and will set you apart.
 
Well if it makes you feel any better MedPR, I understand what you're saying and I agree on the word usage you've suggested. Having children is most definitely challenging while in school (or any time of life really!) but I certainly would call it an adversity, which has a negative connotation in my mind.
Using the word "adversity" in a PS to describe the challenge of being in school and having kids probably isn't the best thing due to that negative connotation. So in the sense of being nit picky on the PS, don't describe it as an adversity unless you want to express that negative feeling towards the challenge of having kids.
In regular conversation or on a forum, it's probably not that big of a deal, and it would be silly to point it out.
Anyway, that's my $0.02 on the word adversity.

As for using your challenges in a PS, it's a no-brainer. Do it. As many have said, highlight the strength your family gives you or how having a family has shaped you into the person you are now. Having a family of my own, and having our daughter in the middle of the semester when we were both in school full-time and I was working 3 part-time jobs, I can say I understand how much of a challenge it can be, and it definitely is worth mentioning and will set you apart.

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Well if it makes you feel any better MedPR, I understand what you're saying and I agree on the word usage you've suggested. Having children is most definitely challenging while in school (or any time of life really!) but I certainly would call it an adversity, which has a negative connotation in my mind.
Using the word "adversity" in a PS to describe the challenge of being in school and having kids probably isn't the best thing due to that negative connotation. So in the sense of being nit picky on the PS, don't describe it as an adversity unless you want to express that negative feeling towards the challenge of having kids.
In regular conversation or on a forum, it's probably not that big of a deal, and it would be silly to point it out.
Anyway, that's my $0.02 on the word adversity.

As for using your challenges in a PS, it's a no-brainer. Do it. As many have said, highlight the strength your family gives you or how having a family has shaped you into the person you are now. Having a family of my own, and having our daughter in the middle of the semester when we were both in school full-time and I was working 3 part-time jobs, I can say I understand how much of a challenge it can be, and it definitely is worth mentioning and will set you apart.


Good to know I'm not the only one with at least half a brain.
 
i wonder this too but he happens to be right about this situation.
 
I'm just now realizing that you changed your username, but I can't quite remember what your old one was.

Hopefulmd9. Figured I didnt need to be hopeful anymore since I got accepted hahaha
 
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