Should I switch to an 4WD/AWD vehicle

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I live in Florida and currently drive a 2013 Honda Accord with 85000 miles. However, the car is front wheel drive and I'm moving to Michigan for med school and I know it snows a lot there. So I was wondering if I should trade in my car for an AWD vehicle. I estimate I can get $8000 for my car, and am currently looking at a 2007 Volvo S80 AWD with 110000 miles for $3000, so I will actually make money back by trading in my car.

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I moved to Wisconsin from California for school and my car is FWD (brought it from CA) and it hasn't been a problem. I just put snow tires on during the winter. Not worth the hassle IMO.
 
Driving in the snow just takes practice. You need to drive slow, especially on ice. 4WD might help in some situations, but trust me, when you’re driving on black ice you won’t stop if you are going too fast and don’t know how to pump the brakes correctly; 4WD won’t help you much on ice. I wouldn’t worry trading in your car, just be cautious when the snow starts falling.
 
I have lived in the midwest my whole life and I am also a car enthusiast. With that being said, FWD is perfectly fine in the snow as long as you have the proper tires. Even AWD vehicles will have difficulty in the snow if it is on summer tires or have tires that are balding. My suggestion is to not trade your car in and make sure you get new all season tires or winter tires (that way you can switch back to your normal tires when it stops snowing).
 
I wouldn't trade in your car if 4WD is the sole reason you're doing it. I've been driving a 2WD Civic for years and never really had a problem.

Definitely get studded tires and put them on as soon as you are legally allowed. Michigan is like PA it can be 60 and sunny one day and 9 with 2 feet of snow on the ground the next morning because lake effect snow, yo. You don't want to be caught out without snow tires on, you will be very sad. If it's freezing rain don't bother getting in your car or your ass will be in a ditch, 4WD or not. You could also trip on the way out and die, so don't do that. My crippling fear of tripping and dying is why I don't go outside most days. Kappa.


Secondly, don't drive like a dummy. If it's loose snow and it hasn't been plowed you should be going 15 under. Take your foot off the gas long before stops and turns. If you can't see the pavement, you should be going under the speed limit.
 
Minnesotan here. The key to driving on snow/ice is to slow down and not be an idiot. As others have said, leave space behind other cars. You’ll feel pretty quickly how long it’ll take to stop and turn.

At least in some places bad weather will keep bad drivers off the road, which can be a plus. I live in Boston and people are like this. Frankly I feel safer driving in a blizzard with no Boston drivers than I do in nice weather and normal Boston traffic. However, I’m guessing that in Michigan snowy weather won’t deter people as much.

Snow tires are a must, and a stick shift is great too!
 
I live in Florida and currently drive a 2013 Honda Accord with 85000 miles. However, the car is front wheel drive and I'm moving to Michigan for med school and I know it snows a lot there. So I was wondering if I should trade in my car for an AWD vehicle. I estimate I can get $8000 for my car, and am currently looking at a 2007 Volvo S80 AWD with 110000 miles for $3000, so I will actually make money back by trading in my car.
1. Never buy used Volvo especially with so many miles.

2. Keep using your Accord. It won't give you a headache taking care of it. Just put winter tires or just new M+S tires for winter season.

3. If I would switch from Accord, I would switch to something smaller like Civic or Corolla for winter driving. They are smaller and lighter - better handling and breaking. But it probably not worth the hassle right now.

4. There are small or mid-size cars that also have AWD option like Toyota Matrix (Corolla), and it's cheaper version Pontiac Vibe. Another option is Subaru Legacy, but they may be problematic over 100k miles.
 
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I've lived in the midwest my whole life with very snowy winters.
I've had my car since high school, it has about 180k miles on it and its FWD. I have high-quality tires on it and it drives great in the snow.
In an honest comparison with my parents AWD cars, their AWDs do drive slightly better in the snow, but I still feel quite comfortable in my FWD.

Accords are reliable cars as they age. Keep your accord. Do not go cheap on the tires!! Invest in some good ones when you move.
If you really want to go AWD, buy one after medical school with low mileage (or even brand new 😉 )!
 
I agree with basically everyone above. If it was a rear wheel drive I would say you might want to consider something new, but front wheel drive is fine in the snow. 4WDs doing better in the snow is basically a fallacy. I've seen more people spin out in 4WDs because they think 4WD makes them invincible than the sensible drivers in a FWD. Snow tires and good sense will get you a long way.
 
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Moved from CA to Wisconsin post-grad. I didn't have that much experience with snow-driving prior and purchased a new Subaru shortly after moving. One wicked winter later, I'm so happy with my choice. Learning to drive in the snow, AWD was super forgiving and it was nice to have confidence in my car even under awful conditions. Can't speak on your proposed trade or how your current car would handle, but figured I would plug my Subie...

also, congrats and welcome to the midwest 😉
 
Consider a Subaru, as they are all (I think) AWD. If you buy a replacement car, be sure to get something reliable and with a warranty. You don't want to be caught out in the snow during exam week with an unreliable car.
 
AWD for when you need the extra traction for street racing.
 
Michigan does a good job with plowing so you don't need AWD or 4WD. You will be fine with FWD. RWD can be a bit tricky in the snow even on plowed roads and should be avoided in icy/snow areas during winter months but even then it's doable if you don't drive like a *****. More importantly than AWD/FWD/RWD, you need to learn to drive in winter conditions. You can watch videos on it but the take home points are: drive slow, drive even slower on turns, decellerate slowly, never slam your breaks, add extra time to get wherever you are going, and if for whatever reason you start to skid, do not break instead take your foot off the gas, turn your wheels into the skid, wait for traction then begin to accelerate or decelerate (it takes some getting used to and if you've never skidded a car on ice I would highly recommend going into a big parking lot in winter so you don't freak out the first time it happens as it will happen. I've skidded in my big ass 4wd truck before on a mountain pass with a cliff to my side but if you react appropriately you're fine), also, maintain a generous stopping distance in front of you. One thing I would sometimes do is test the roads when I first got on them, when no one was in front of me I would hit my breaks and see if I skid. If you skid, you know you need to be going ultra slow. I drove a FWD buick century all throughout med school and residency and never had a problem.

I would put studless winter tires on your Accord and call it a day. An Accord is far more reliable than a Volvo which is a POS.
 
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I'm from Michigan and go to med school in Michigan. You don't need AWD. You need to learn how to drive in the snow and tires that aren't bald, I've never used winter tires for $$$ reasons, but some people like them. Not needed.

Until it broke last year I was driving my first car from HS that was a falling apart FWD sedan and never once had an issue as far as driving in snow is concerned that wasn't my fault. I have an AWD now and as far as actually driving on the roads there is exactly 0 difference (there is obviously a difference when traction matters like pulling out of a snow-covered driveway or something, but knowing how to drive is 100000x better than 4WD/AWD).
 
Driving in the snow up north ain’t bad. They have the equipment and funding to take care of the roads well. And they usually do. Now, the parts of the south where we actually get winter...that’s a different story.
 
4. There are small or mid-size cars that also have AWD option like Toyota Matrix (Corolla), and it's cheaper version Pontiac Vibe. Another option is Subaru Legacy, but they may be problematic over 100k miles.

I wouldn't consider the Corolla and Legacy to be in the same class. The Impreza is closer to the Corolla. AWD comes standard in all Subaru's whereas it's an add-on for other brands.
 
Consider a Subaru, as they are all (I think) AWD. If you buy a replacement car, be sure to get something reliable and with a warranty. You don't want to be caught out in the snow during exam week with an unreliable car.

Yes, all Subaru's have AWD. The Impreza is a nice all-around car, although it's engine does seem a bit lacking and the interior material looks super cheap.
 
Grew up in Michigan, honestly one of the best cars I've driven through heavy snow was my dad's FWD Toyota Sienna. As long as you have good tires, you should be good. There's always the sandbags in the trunk trick too, but that's more for RWD.
 
I wouldn't consider the Corolla and Legacy to be in the same class. The Impreza is closer to the Corolla. AWD comes standard in all Subaru's whereas it's an add-on for other brands.
Yep, They are not in the same class. I just added Legacy as an example of Subaru in general. I owned all of these cars. Most years and models of Honda, Toyota, Legacy, Impreza.
 
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