Sleep Medicine Subspecialty

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Does one have to complete a residency in internal medicine then do a fellowship in sleep medicine?

Also, what is the salary/job prospects of a sleep medicine doctor?

I've searched this forum and the 'net but haven't found anything reliable yet.

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Does one have to complete a residency in internal medicine then do a fellowship in sleep medicine?

Also, what is the salary/job prospects of a sleep medicine doctor?

I've searched this forum and the 'net but haven't found anything reliable yet.

Thanks! 👍

Pretty sure it's an internal medicine subspecialty. Ah, here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_medicine#United_States

I've only known a couple of sleep medicine docs. I believe they were compensated quite fairly. No clue as to job prospects.
 
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I don't think you have to be CC/pulmonary to do a sleep fellowship but it seems like most of them are. I think because sleep apnea is a big part of sleep medicine and the pulmonary folks generally are the ones managing the breathing related sleep disorders. I am not sure what the compensation is but I am sure they are in demand due to obesity increasing sleep apnea rates and just Americans generally having crappy sleep. 🙂 The good news is that the fellowship is only one year.
 
Actually, you can go into sleep medicine from a number of different specialties - including peds and psych...probably something like ENT as well, given the number multifactorial aspect of disordered sleep.

If you open your own sleep center, doing sleep medicine can be extremely lucrative. Minimal personnel overhead (just one or two techs overnight to monitor patients) and you can probably remain near 100% occupancy with a decent size center, which may be 6-10 patients at night...especially if you'll accept pediatric patients.

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Actually, you can go into sleep medicine from a number of different specialties - including peds and psych...probably something like ENT as well, given the number multifactorial aspect of disordered sleep.

If you open your own sleep center, doing sleep medicine can be extremely lucrative. Minimal personnel overhead (just one or two techs overnight to monitor patients) and you can probably remain near 100% occupancy with a decent size center, which may be 6-10 patients at night...especially if you'll accept pediatric patients.
 
I want to say that you can also do the fellowship after a neurology residency. I'm not positive though.
 
Actually, you can go into sleep medicine from a number of different specialties - including peds and psych...probably something like ENT as well, given the number multifactorial aspect of disordered sleep.

If you open your own sleep center, doing sleep medicine can be extremely lucrative. Minimal personnel overhead (just one or two techs overnight to monitor patients) and you can probably remain near 100% occupancy with a decent size center, which may be 6-10 patients at night...especially if you'll accept pediatric patients.
Very interesting! We have a handful of pulmonologists that do sleep medicine at my hospital, but those are the only ones we have. Thank you for this response, BRB.
 
Actually, you can go into sleep medicine from a number of different specialties.

Correct.

Sleep medicine is tough to analyze salary wise. If you work in someone else's sleep lab, you may make less than general psychiatrists/IM/others that don't have a sleep fellowship or maybe slightly more. I'd say probably not worth the extra training.

Now if you open your own sleep lab (many do), then it all depends on your business skills. Some make great money, some slightly more than average, and some lose quite a bit of money if the business fails. Reimbursement rates seem to be decreasing, and it also seems to be state dependent (although I'm not fully aware of all the politics - could be wrong).

If you love sleep apnea, could be for you.
 
Just wanted to point out the irony of someone with a pic of 5 hr energy wanting to go into sleep medicine.
 
I think most of the potential residencies you can complete have been said already, but to put them together in one post, the Careers in Medicine website from the AAMC lists family medicine, internal medicine, neurology, otolaryngology, pediatrics, and psychiatry as residency programs through which you can enter a sleep medicine fellowship.

It's always possible that specific programs will have a preference for specific specialties, however. IM is probably less preferable than someone who also did a pulm fellowship. For what it's worth, I always thought neurology was the most popular route, but I'm probably biased because I'm most interested in neuro/psych.

Check out this page from SDN a while back ago on sleep medicine: http://www.studentdoctor.net/2008/01/20-questions-sleep-medicine/
 
Sleep is an excellent field but is rapidly changing. It is becoming more expensive. Medicare recently re-defined who qualifies for PAP therapy, which has caused much wailing and gnashing of teeth among providers. Many states are requiring licensing for techs, who are your lifeblood. Medicare requires independent labs only employ registered techs.

I'm an RPSGT (Registered Polysomnography Technologist) at a sleep center. We are one of the larger labs around at 11 beds. We never have an empty bed. Most labs are 4-6 beds and employ 2-3 techs (max 3 pts per night if AASM-accredited; this JUST changed this month, used to be 2 pt per night).

As a sleep doc, you can open a sleep center (includes narolepsy, parasomnia testing) that usually includes a clinical side for daytime visits. You can also open just a sleep lab, which only diagnoses and treats sleep breathing disorders. You can also be an off-site scorer, and charge $100-200 per study you score.

If you are in a well-insured area and develop a great base of referring docs (mostly PCPs, but also neurologists, ENTs, etc), you can make a ton of money. Your speed in scheduling new patients and getting them through the experience in a positive manner really affects your referral base.

To answer the other question, yes, you can get to sleep through MANY residencies -- IM, FM, psych, neuro, ENT, pulm and more. I'm partial to neurologists -- there's more to sleep medicine than apnea, which a lot of ENTs and pulm docs seem to forget.
 
I don’t know about averages but sleep docs where I live are extremely well compensated for their work. They make over 800k for less then 40 hours a week with no call. I think their compensation is going to be drastically cut once insurance companies catch on to what they are making though, so don't hold your breath on making that much money in the next 5-10yrs.​
 
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I don’t know about averages but sleep docs where I live are extremely well compensated for their work. They make over 800k for less then 40 hours a week with no call. I think their compensation is going to be drastically cut once insurance companies catch on to what they are making though, so don't hold your breath on making that much money in the next 5-10yrs.​

800k would be in the top 1% I believe
 
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