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thread says it all! 🙂
anyone?
anyone?
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I visited SLU back in October and havent been to Drexel but am familiar with Philly bc I live in DC. I really liked St Louis and if you are from the midwest it might be to your advantage to stay there. Philly has a decent location (one hour north of bmore, 2 hours south of nyc) but other than that it is a hole. St. louis is a pretty young city and nelly is from there so you know... I mean it's hot in heea?
Either way, both are not terrible cities to live in but then again st louis was just named murder capital of the US and philly is known to be a dangerouse city as well... especially around temple/upenn/drexel area
Either way, both are not terrible cities to live in but then again st louis was just named murder capital of the US and philly is known to be a dangerouse city as well... especially around temple/upenn/drexel area
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thanks for the response crazah-
what about cities aside? just the qualities of the schools?
thanks for the response crazah-
what about cities aside? just the qualities of the schools?
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feeling better moops? 🙂
SLU because of better rep and because Drexel wanted a certified cashier's check for their secondary(last year anyway don't know about this cycle) and then sent a rejection letter!😡
SLU because of better rep and because Drexel wanted a certified cashier's check for their secondary(last year anyway don't know about this cycle) and then sent a rejection letter!😡
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thanks- yeah feeling a lot better and appreciating everything i have been given'.. i think my anxiousness and depression is something that may be genetic (and of course situational)..
but- anyways- feeling great- thanks.
oh- and anyone else have input? i want to do an ER residency if that makes any difference.. maybe something like trauma surgery? 🙂
but- anyways- feeling great- thanks.
oh- and anyone else have input? i want to do an ER residency if that makes any difference.. maybe something like trauma surgery? 🙂
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Yeah, what was up with that??
Anyway, I never ended up visiting Drexel (cancelled my interview)...I just never got a very good vibe from that school. Everything I read and heard from them just didn't wow me. I'm sure it's a great place. But it's definitely not for me.
I like SLU quite a bit. Interesting perspective on medical education. I've only been to St Louis once, and I interviewed regionally...but my interviewer told me that SLU is kind of in the "ghetto area" of St Louis, so the school's hospital (which is apparently the largest and/or coolest one in the city) sees all kinds of interesting cases. I also hear that St Louis is a surprisingly happening place--good cultural scene, killer Mardi Gras, etc.
Anyway, good luck deciding, moops. If you end up going to SLU, there's a very good chance I'll see you there!
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Moops,
I interviewed at Drexel and had a regional interview for SLU. If it was me, I would pick SLU. Drexel was nice but the hospital is not on campus and the area is kinda ghetto to me. My interviewer for SLU admitted to me that SLU is not in a nice area but then again, you get good clinical training there. Plus, based on rep., I think SLU is better.
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I interviewed at Drexel and had a regional interview for SLU. If it was me, I would pick SLU. Drexel was nice but the hospital is not on campus and the area is kinda ghetto to me. My interviewer for SLU admitted to me that SLU is not in a nice area but then again, you get good clinical training there. Plus, based on rep., I think SLU is better.
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ok, i don't get this! i read a similar comment on another drexel thread. from what i saw, the area around drexel med is not ghetto at all. it's rather suburban/upper-middle class. true, the train ride in goes through some not so hot parts, but the area right around the med school seemed pretty nice (though perhaps a little boring) to me. do you mean the hospital area?
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Lola,
Maybe it was where i stayed. I stayed with a student host and his place was in a nice tower but the surrounding area was not so nice. So I only really got to see that area near the school. Also, I was a little disheartened when one med student who was 6"3 and like 200 pounds told me he got mugged in broad daylight.
Jetson
Maybe it was where i stayed. I stayed with a student host and his place was in a nice tower but the surrounding area was not so nice. So I only really got to see that area near the school. Also, I was a little disheartened when one med student who was 6"3 and like 200 pounds told me he got mugged in broad daylight.
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I'm glad you posted this lola. From what I'd read, i was expecting to go to southcentral LA or something when I went to Drexel. I didn't think there was anything ghetto about it. I guess some people's opinion about what is and isn't ghetto differs. Drexel seemed fine to me and if I was going there, I would be proud. There were really great students there and Philly isn't near as bad as people make it seem.
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i have visited both drexel and slu and personally i would pick drexel for the following reasons:
1) students appear happier; granted it may be the only school that accepted them, i actually heard some students (fr my host) who were unhappy at slu and i have so far haven't heard this fr drexel
2) students are more interactive, interesting and diverse
3) negative vibes i gathered from my student host and 2 other interviewees' student hosts ( the students had test coming up fri, but it was moday when we were w/ them and none of the three spent more than 15 minutes talking with us. i had the impression that they are not very accomodating to us.)
4)safer school location
5) st. louis is not happening at all. drexel is just a 15 min train ride fr philly which is not bad at all.
6) i'm sure both school-affiliated hospitals would have comparable degree of diversity patient-wise. the drexel hospital is in the city and so patient pop'n is not going to be wanting.
7) i don't know about the prestige but drexel students prob like slu's usually get the residency that they want
1) students appear happier; granted it may be the only school that accepted them, i actually heard some students (fr my host) who were unhappy at slu and i have so far haven't heard this fr drexel
2) students are more interactive, interesting and diverse
3) negative vibes i gathered from my student host and 2 other interviewees' student hosts ( the students had test coming up fri, but it was moday when we were w/ them and none of the three spent more than 15 minutes talking with us. i had the impression that they are not very accomodating to us.)
4)safer school location
5) st. louis is not happening at all. drexel is just a 15 min train ride fr philly which is not bad at all.
6) i'm sure both school-affiliated hospitals would have comparable degree of diversity patient-wise. the drexel hospital is in the city and so patient pop'n is not going to be wanting.
7) i don't know about the prestige but drexel students prob like slu's usually get the residency that they want
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i am faced with the same decision and i'm 99% sure i'm going to drexel. yes, the reputation of slu might be somewhat better, but i just really liked drexel and the philly area when i visited. i think both have a great curriculum and the students are pretty friendly at both schools (although i got a better vibe from drexel students). i felt like drexel catered a little more to the interests and needs of the students as far as pil/ifm and the pathways program and of course it's pretty high tech. slu is in the ghetto and i have to say that i thought the area of drexel was pretty nice. i spent the weekend with a friend that lives in center city and i had so much fun - great bars, food, people, culture, etc. i didn't spend that much time in st. louis, so i can't really comment on the social scene there. i think you'll get adequate training at both schools so it just comes down to where you think you'll fit in best and be happy. i personally see myself more at drexel regardless of reputation. enough rambling - good luck with your decision and pm me if you have any specific questions about the schools!
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I've never seen SLU, but I have been to Drexel and was accepted. In my opinion, I felt that people at Drexel were pretty laid back, and the place looked very new compared to some of the other schools I visited. In regards to rep, I don't think that either holds a significant national advantage over another (both are considered sub-par). I do think that there may be a regional difference in rep., and maybe a degree from SLU is more valuable in the midwest. I personally did not apply to SLU because I never heard of it, but I did know about Drexel University (not the school of medicine but the campus near UPenn). After reviewing the stats though, it looks like SLU has some very high standards in comparison to Drexel. I feel fortunate to be one of the 17,500 people that get accepted to a U.S. medical school each year and though Drexel is not my first choice, I know it will offer me enough opportunities. If I were you I would take SLU, mostly because they are not in a rebuilding phase like Drexel, who has endured financial hardships recently.
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Didn't apply to Drexel, so I can't compare the two.
But I must say---yes, SLU is not in a great area. But to those who think SLU is "in the ghetto," damn. I'd like to see what you think of a really bad area. You'd piss your pants or something.
But I must say---yes, SLU is not in a great area. But to those who think SLU is "in the ghetto," damn. I'd like to see what you think of a really bad area. You'd piss your pants or something.
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Dats some funny shiz, just imagine if they had to go to long beach, home of snoop doggy dog, or to south central where Drew is, for sure some depends would be needed.
But back to the op, I would choose slu, based on rep, stablity of the institution, and match list. The area where slu is isn't that bad, you pretty much get a small town feel in a city.
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I am an MSI at SLU and I wanted to comment on some of the things I have read. I will try to be as unbiased as I can. 😀
First, I will admit that I applied to only five schools, and SLU was not among my top choices. But, although not my first choice, it is where I ended up. However, I have always believed that everything happens for a reason, and I still believe this since my experiences at SLU have thus far been extremely positive.
Yes, the school is in "the ghetto," but as you will find, a lot of medical schools are in poorer areas. You look at med schools in Chicago, New York, and other major cities, and you will see the same. You have to realize you only go to school there. Its not like you have to live in the government subsidized housing. Most people live in much nicer areas within ten minutes of the school. Also, the security at SLU drives around the neighborhood continuously. And although in a poorer area, the medical center has a campus feel that makes it very safe and actually fairly charming.
In terms of the education, I would say the first two years are fairly average. Its a combination of lectures and small group/computer exercises, which I find very effective for my learning style. You dont find the school on any rankings list, but it is because we dont do a substantial amount of research and we dont attract the brightest minds in the country. But, as any medical school, they educate their students well and succeed in placing their students on the same playing field as most other US medical school graduates. What you do see on rankings lists is SLU hospital. They are ranked nationally for several specialties. This is a reflection on the quality of clinical instruction you receive during your third and fourth years. It is because of this, in my opinion, that SLU students continue to match in great residency programs year after year.
Another good thing about SLU that most applicants do not know about is the quality of the faculty. They are excellent instructors with a lot of concern for their students, very available for assistance outside of class, and very involved in student life and social activities. SLU also offers an elective your first and second year, which can be clinical, research, or community-related. They provide you with early exposure to a specialty or an opportunity to become published through a research project. The research projects can be continued over the summer in between your first and second year. A subtantial stipend is given to these students, which keeps you from having to find a real job over the summer. Research is essential for those students seeking highly competitive residencies, which makes it a very valuable experience. Furthermore, SLU is one of the few schools where the students completely operate an open-door clinic for the financially underpriveleged of St Louis city. It is an excellent way to help others while sharpening clinical skills, such as phlebotomy and shots, histories, physicals, and patient education.
I know it is hard to do but you guys have to realize that reputation and prestige of a medical school play a minimal role in your future success. If youre not going to a top-ten program, the quality of school will not help you. Every medical school in the US undergoes extensive accredidation, which ensures that every school provides quality education. Ultimately, how you do on USMLE will be dependent on your committment to your medical education. Whether you go to Drexel or SLU or elsewhere, you will most likely end up in the same spot four years from now. When choosing a school, I believe the most important factors are how well the curriculum caters to your learning style, what activities/facilities (eg, fitness center, intramurals, student interest groups) does the school and city have that will provide diversion from the stresses of school when needed, and how close you are to the people that comprise your support structure (ie, family and friends). As long as you keep happy and positive, you will succeed in any program. Best of luck with your application process and feel free to PM me with any questions.
p.s. in response to the persons that were treated poorly during test week, i apologize, but you will find out very shortly that the week before an exam is extremely stressful and the way you treat people during test week is neither a testament to your personality nor the quality of medical eduction....just ask my girlfriend!!😍
First, I will admit that I applied to only five schools, and SLU was not among my top choices. But, although not my first choice, it is where I ended up. However, I have always believed that everything happens for a reason, and I still believe this since my experiences at SLU have thus far been extremely positive.
Yes, the school is in "the ghetto," but as you will find, a lot of medical schools are in poorer areas. You look at med schools in Chicago, New York, and other major cities, and you will see the same. You have to realize you only go to school there. Its not like you have to live in the government subsidized housing. Most people live in much nicer areas within ten minutes of the school. Also, the security at SLU drives around the neighborhood continuously. And although in a poorer area, the medical center has a campus feel that makes it very safe and actually fairly charming.
In terms of the education, I would say the first two years are fairly average. Its a combination of lectures and small group/computer exercises, which I find very effective for my learning style. You dont find the school on any rankings list, but it is because we dont do a substantial amount of research and we dont attract the brightest minds in the country. But, as any medical school, they educate their students well and succeed in placing their students on the same playing field as most other US medical school graduates. What you do see on rankings lists is SLU hospital. They are ranked nationally for several specialties. This is a reflection on the quality of clinical instruction you receive during your third and fourth years. It is because of this, in my opinion, that SLU students continue to match in great residency programs year after year.
Another good thing about SLU that most applicants do not know about is the quality of the faculty. They are excellent instructors with a lot of concern for their students, very available for assistance outside of class, and very involved in student life and social activities. SLU also offers an elective your first and second year, which can be clinical, research, or community-related. They provide you with early exposure to a specialty or an opportunity to become published through a research project. The research projects can be continued over the summer in between your first and second year. A subtantial stipend is given to these students, which keeps you from having to find a real job over the summer. Research is essential for those students seeking highly competitive residencies, which makes it a very valuable experience. Furthermore, SLU is one of the few schools where the students completely operate an open-door clinic for the financially underpriveleged of St Louis city. It is an excellent way to help others while sharpening clinical skills, such as phlebotomy and shots, histories, physicals, and patient education.
I know it is hard to do but you guys have to realize that reputation and prestige of a medical school play a minimal role in your future success. If youre not going to a top-ten program, the quality of school will not help you. Every medical school in the US undergoes extensive accredidation, which ensures that every school provides quality education. Ultimately, how you do on USMLE will be dependent on your committment to your medical education. Whether you go to Drexel or SLU or elsewhere, you will most likely end up in the same spot four years from now. When choosing a school, I believe the most important factors are how well the curriculum caters to your learning style, what activities/facilities (eg, fitness center, intramurals, student interest groups) does the school and city have that will provide diversion from the stresses of school when needed, and how close you are to the people that comprise your support structure (ie, family and friends). As long as you keep happy and positive, you will succeed in any program. Best of luck with your application process and feel free to PM me with any questions.
p.s. in response to the persons that were treated poorly during test week, i apologize, but you will find out very shortly that the week before an exam is extremely stressful and the way you treat people during test week is neither a testament to your personality nor the quality of medical eduction....just ask my girlfriend!!😍
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