So called "Stats" schools

[SDN2013]

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Maybe. But with those numbers, there is obviously something glaringly wrong to the adcoms if he didn't get in. Just my two cents...

sometimes there's a bit of luck involved too. I looked at your mdapps and this was your 3rd time applying. Most people apply once or twice. So did you have to apply a 3rd time because of being a "salty douche" ?

 

[ChubbyChaser]

A salty douche?
hahaha, i know it wasnt meant to be taken literally, but for some reason i cant help but envisioning it.

 

[batman1983]

yup. I think just to substantiate this - Wash U has a sorta BA/MD program called university scholars

this is their requirement for admissions to MD

1. maintain a 3.8 grade point average (GPA) as an undergraduate student
2. complete an application to the School of Medicine the year before entering medical studies
3. achieve a total score of 36 on the Medical College Admission Test (MCAT)
4. complete a successful interview with the School of Medicine’s Committee on Admissions.

those are pretty high standards for a bachelors to md transition, imo

but its all good, they have great faculty and build great physicians. some schools have different philosophy in picking students - i guess theirs is more objective

Damn, and here I thought Bac/MD's were suppose to be the easy way of getting into med school. With those kinds of requirements for a bac/MD, you might have a better chance applying straight into Wash's MD program.

 

[batman1983]

sometimes there's a bit of luck involved too. I looked at your mdapps and this was your 3rd time applying. Most people apply once or twice. So did you have to apply a 3rd time because of being a "salty douche" ?

touche

 

[SDN2013]

Damn, and here I thought Bac/MD's were suppose to be the easy way of getting into med school. With those kinds of requirements for a bac/MD, you might have a better chance applying straight into Wash's MD program.

You will not. Completing AMCAS and having a successful interview aren't that hard.

 

[jerew]

Anyone ever get mail from Wash U cuz of MCAT? I was surprised to see a packet from them the other day. I didn't think med schools did this, but I guess if anyone would, it would be wash u. What do most ppl think of wash u? I'm considering applying, but I'm not sure...

 

[fizzle]

yup. I think just to substantiate this - Wash U has a sorta BA/MD program called university scholars

this is their requirement for admissions to MD

1. maintain a 3.8 grade point average (GPA) as an undergraduate student
2. complete an application to the School of Medicine the year before entering medical studies
3. achieve a total score of 36 on the Medical College Admission Test (MCAT)
4. complete a successful interview with the School of Medicine’s Committee on Admissions.

those are pretty high standards for a bachelors to md transition, imo

but its all good, they have great faculty and build great physicians. some schools have different philosophy in picking students - i guess theirs is more objective

That doesn't even make sense; if you need a high MCAT and GPA and also need to submit an application the year before matriculation and also need an interview, then how the heck is a BA/MD program different from just earning the BA and then applying to WashU?

 

[JokerMD]

what's "Wash U?"

as in what's the real name. there are so many washington's around that i have no idea what school you guys are talking about

 

[WhizoMD]

what's "Wash U?"

as in what's the real name. there are so many washington's around that i have no idea what school you guys are talking about

Washington University In St. Louis

 

[WashMe]

Anyone ever get mail from Wash U cuz of MCAT? I was surprised to see a packet from them the other day. I didn't think med schools did this, but I guess if anyone would, it would be wash u. What do most ppl think of wash u? I'm considering applying, but I'm not sure...

They hit me up with a bunch of mail then they WL'd me this year. It's a great school though, I'll be reapplying next year. Check out the program.

One thing to consider; for the incoming class last year, the median MCAT was ~37 with an average of ~39, and the average GPA was > 3.9.

That doesn't mean you won't get in, but it does mean that if you get in you'll have to work your @$$ off just to say in the middle third of the class. Everyone who goes there was probably pretty much the smartest person at their undergrad, and they aren't complacent individuals. I was advised by someone on SDN who attended WashU to be careful of going there if you want to do a highly competitive specialty. While the bottom 1/3 of the class at WashU is still full of brilliant people, falling in the bottom 1/3 of the class at any medical school can screw you (or so I hear).

 

[slick27]

What are the stats required for tufts? someone said 3.5 gpa and what about mcat?

 

[flaahless]

A salty douche?
hahaha, i know it wasnt meant to be taken literally, but for some reason i cant help but envisioning it.

Hahaha +1

 

[batman1983]

They hit me up with a bunch of mail then they WL'd me this year. It's a great school though, I'll be reapplying next year. Check out the program.

One thing to consider; for the incoming class last year, the median MCAT was ~37 with an average of ~39, and the average GPA was > 3.9.

That doesn't mean you won't get in, but it does mean that if you get in you'll have to work your @$$ off just to say in the middle third of the class. Everyone who goes there was probably pretty much the smartest person at their undergrad, and they aren't complacent individuals. I was advised by someone on SDN who attended WashU to be careful of going there if you want to do a highly competitive specialty. While the bottom 1/3 of the class at WashU is still full of brilliant people, falling in the bottom 1/3 of the class at any medical school can screw you (or so I hear).

Sorry to be off topic, but how much does class rank and med school difficulty play in residencies? Ie, given two applicants with same board scores/ECs, one in bottom 1/3 at Wash U and the other in top 1/3 at GWU, which would do better in residency placement and etc?

 

[WashMe]

Sorry to be off topic, but how much does class rank and med school difficulty play in residencies? Ie, given two applicants with same board scores/ECs, one in bottom 1/3 at Wash U and the other in top 1/3 at GWU, which would do better in residency placement and etc?

hey batman,

I can only told you what I was told by a former WashU student, which is essentially that a middle 1/3 WashU student would probably beat out a top 1/3 (but not top 5-10%) student at a low/mid tier school. WashU claims that they've matched people in the middle 1/3 of the class into every specialty (ROADs included), which is good. The impression I get is that you REALLY don't want to fall in the bottom 1/3 at any school, but the reality is that 1/3 of people do. Like I said, some people at WashU in the bottom 1/3 were probably ~4.0/40 kind of people in UG... tough competition. I was checking out the MSAR spreadsheet for 2010/2011 and WashU has a 3.9/38 median, with a 90th percentile MCAT of 41! OMFG.

I guess those numbers are for accepted, not matriculated. But still, we know that for matriculants the mean MCAT is really high thirties with a GPA average of ~3.9.

 

[Raryn]

It's amazing how easily being a salty douche will outweigh a 78.2 LizzyM score...

I'm sure you know ONOY personally.

And myself as well.

Right?